Adam & Eve suicide

[Adventist Dissident]

I have been wonding abou this for some time? why did Adam and Eve not comit suscide? it would have stopped the sin problem in it's tracks? It seems selfish to contiune to want to live if other have to suffer. Has anyone else wondered this? if so what conclusion have you come to.

 

[Patroklos]

I have been wonding abou this for some time? why did Adam and Eve not comit suscide? it would have stopped the sin problem in it's tracks? It seems selfish to contiune to want to live if other have to suffer. Has anyone else wondered this? if so what conclusion have you come to.

Probably because they were selfish. Have you ever killed yourself? No. Because you like living. Organisms were designed to live, so death is kind of a non sequitor for living beings. That is why suicide is so strange; it is abnormal!

 

[omanid]

God didn't allow it to happen.

The Bible says that we have the choice of planning whatever we want but it's ultimately up to God which plans get approved.

 

[Achilles6129]

Probably because they were selfish. Have you ever killed yourself? No. Because you like living. Organisms were designed to live, so death is kind of a non sequitor for living beings. That is why suicide is so strange; it is abnormal!

Anyways, to answer your question, there is no reason for Adam and Eve to commit suicide because God will deliver all of their progeny so long as they obey his commands. The problem, obviously, is that they refuse to obey his commands, and thus plunge themselves into a desolate wasteland filled with suffering, death, etc.

The proof that God will deliver all those who obey his commands from death and suffering (at least suffering as mankind defines it) is as follows:

"51Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death." Jn. 8:51

"4Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:" Gal. 1:4

"[Charity]...7Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. " 1 Cor. 13:7

So the reason Adam and Eve did not commit suicide is simple: Their progeny are in no danger, so long as they obey the commands of God. The problem is that they will not obey the commands of God.

 

[Strong in Him]

I have been wonding abou this for some time? why did Adam and Eve not comit suscide? it would have stopped the sin problem in it's tracks? It seems selfish to contiune to want to live if other have to suffer. Has anyone else wondered this? if so what conclusion have you come to.

But I'm not sure that they could have known, or fully worked out, the consequences of their disobedience. They sinned - and tried to blame others instead of taking responsibility - God gave them a punishment and drove them out of the garden. They may well have thought that that was it; that Cain would learn from their mistakes and not disobey God, or that they could bring him up to be perfect.

How could they know that mankind's relationship with God was now broken, that we would be unable to do anything to reconcile ourselves to God and it would take the death of the spotless Lamb of God to do so? How could they have known that their disobedience would lead to other sins such as murder, and worse?

 

[drjean]

Hmmm just because they had had something better before doesn't mean what they had afterwards was unbearable. They walked and talked with GOD in the garden! We live through faith...walking and talking with God in the Spirit and yet find it quite bearable to live... and they had more.

 

[eachallberg]

why did Adam and Eve not comit suscide?

The same reason you haven't.
Maybe they tried to but Yahweh kept catching them.

It seems cowardice to run away from life because of suffering anyways.
Peace.

 

[1Prophetess]

Maybe they didn't know how. After all, the first murder was committed by their son. Maybe they didn't even know they could die.

And then, what pill would they talk to commit suicide? Gun? I'm not really sure they realized they could die until one did.

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

I have been wonding abou this for some time? why did Adam and Eve not comit suscide? it would have stopped the sin problem in it's tracks? It seems selfish to contiune to want to live if other have to suffer. Has anyone else wondered this? if so what conclusion have you come to.

I would think the the knowledge that they obtained by eating the fruit made known to them that if it did occur to them, that it would be as sin. They may also have realized that committing a sin would not fix a sin already committed. They still loved God, they knew they sinned, they also knew that they could not hide from God, regardless of what they did.

Maybe they didn't know how. After all, the first murder was committed by their son. Maybe they didn't even know they could die.

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It would not have taken long after the fall to know what death was; animals eating animals, they eating animals etc.

 

[Noxot]

Probably because they were selfish. Have you ever killed yourself? No. Because you like living. Organisms were designed to live, so death is kind of a non sequitor for living beings. That is why suicide is so strange; it is abnormal!

I only do not kill myself because I know that I would still have to be (i.e. exist). I think people kill themselves often because they think that will solve their problem. perhaps adam and eve knew that killing themselves would not solve their problem and make them suffer more and so they did not do it.


so maybe suicide is not a solution and so they did not do it. some people hate themselves so much that they do kill themselves and others hate pain and suffering enough to not kill themselves even though they hate themselves.

 

[squint]

I have been wonding abou this for some time? why did Adam and Eve not comit suscide? it would have stopped the sin problem in it's tracks? It seems selfish to contiune to want to live if other have to suffer. Has anyone else wondered this? if so what conclusion have you come to.

Adam was Gods son. (Luke 3:38)

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[Adventist Dissident]

Thank-you to those who attempted to take the question seriously, instead of taking themselves seriously.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I have been wonding abou this for some time? why did Adam and Eve not comit suscide? it would have stopped the sin problem in it's tracks? It seems selfish to contiune to want to live if other have to suffer. Has anyone else wondered this? if so what conclusion have you come to.

You mean before or after Cain and Able were born?

Young) Hebrews 11:4 by faith a better sacrifice did Abel offer to God than Cain, through which he was testified to be righteous, God testifying of his gifts, and through it, he being dead, doth yet speak.

 

[Adventist Dissident]

You mean before or after Cain and Able were born?

Young) Hebrews 11:4 by faith a better sacrifice did Abel offer to God than Cain, through which he was testified to be righteous, God testifying of his gifts, and through it, he being dead, doth yet speak.

yes, it seems it would have stopped all the suffering and death in it's tracks. When you think of all the Billions of people who have been born on this planet suffered and died you have to stop and ask was it worth it? Adam and eve could have stopped it all. that is a very troubling question?

 

[ivebeenshown]

Maybe if you reach heaven you can ask them.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Maybe if you reach heaven you can ask them.

Do I detect some doubt there

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[ivebeenshown]

Nope. I really have no idea

 

[brinny]

I have been wonding abou this for some time? why did Adam and Eve not comit suscide? it would have stopped the sin problem in it's tracks? It seems selfish to contiune to want to live if other have to suffer. Has anyone else wondered this? if so what conclusion have you come to.

I dunno, maybe the same reason you haven't committed suicide, since you are fallible as well.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I dunno, maybe the same reason you haven't committed suicide, since you are fallible as well.

In that case, maybe all of us should commit hari kari

 

[bling]

I have been wonding abou this for some time? why did Adam and Eve not comit suscide? it would have stopped the sin problem in it's tracks? It seems selfish to contiune to want to live if other have to suffer. Has anyone else wondered this? if so what conclusion have you come to.

Answer me this:

Would you prefer to be in a place where your eternal close relationship with God was dependent on your personal ability to obey God’s commands (the Garden before sinning) or in a place where your eternal close relationship with God was dependent on your accepting God’s help (forgiveness) (where you are now)?

Limited resources, limited life span, hurting people, tragedies of all kinds, the threat of hell and the burden of sin provide huge opportunities to see, experience, receive, give, show and grow; Godly type Love, so is that important?

Did the time in the Garden teach Adam and Eve and all of us what a lousy place the Garden is for fulfilling our objective?