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Searching_for_Christ

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I'm a Christian. Is there a difference?

No but Lutherans are Christians with very specific theology and beliefs. My question was geared towards Lutherans who are Christians, not to Christians outside the tradition of Lutheranism

I of course mean no disrespect with this



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Its all right, your pretty new here. In the fellowship forums (such as this one) anyone who is not a member of the "denomination" it is representing can only post fellowship posts, or sincere questions. We cannot preach against their traditions, and beliefs ect.

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Show where they are found in the Bible and then we'll know

Ironically, the word this derives from is littered all over the New Testament, it means to follow or attend to. It is typically translated as "follow" in relation to following Jesus.

In a liturgical church, the role of the acolyte is to be an attendant in the service. In the Catholic church this is altar boys. The role of the acolyte varies greatly from church to church because it is based on what assistance or attending to things the priest/minister needs assistance with or the liturgy itself allows.

In some churches the duty is simply lighting the candles prior to service and extinguishing them at the conclusion. Others involve processions in which acolytes may carry the processional cross or torches, a Bible, banners, or incense. This would happen at the procession, the Gospel procession, and the recession (assuming the church does all those within the liturgical rite). Acolytes might retrieve the offering baskets from the ushers or assist in communion (typically collecting individual cups, but the duties here may vary). When I was an acolyte in my old LCMS church we did a lot of behind the scenes type things too (like get more wine if we were running low on communion, get the pastor water, tell the pastor when his mic was still on during the hymn, pass messages to various people, etc.). Because the role of the acolyte is to assist, the duty varies on the level/need of assistance and the roles the church offers to an acolyte.

That may be more than you wanted to hear.
 
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Depends which one you go to. Ours doesn't allow female acolytes (at least I've never seen one) or female lectors. Granted, ours is a part of an online network for churches that follow the liturgy and don't have any contemporary service.
 
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acolytes are typically children that are pre-confirmation and confirmation age - girls do it as well as boys, it's part of their training for confirmation, learning the liturgy, learning the parts of the church, etc.

they assist at the altar, but typically only by collecting the offering plates, and collecting the individual cups at communion - they don't assist in the passing out of the sacrament or anything like that.

edited to add - my 10 year old daughter was acolyte on reformation sunday, and will be acolyte on thanksgiving eve....she loves being able to take part in this.
 
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This is probably the best explaination of it without getting too deep Although some churchs if for some reason they lack confirmation age kids at that particular service or that particular church they will have other people fill the role.

For example at a night service where you might not have confirmation age kids you won't have a formal acoylte but the roles that the acoylte performs are informally done between the pastor, the ushers, and anyone else assisting in the worship.

I went to a Lutheran University and in the chapel there, college students fulfilled the role since we didn't have confirmation age students there.
 
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Regarding women as acolytes, confessionally the priesthood of all believers implies that any duty that is not reserved for the public office of preaching any Christian, male or female, can fulfill it. Any duty that excludes women on the basis of the office of the pastor not being for women would by nature also exclude any lay men because it would fall under the confessional principle that no one should do so without a right and proper call. Beyond that is a Catholic ontological argument that Lutherans do not ascribe to.
 
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From wikipedia



Etymology

The word acolyte is derived from the Greek word acolytos, meaning companion, attendant, or helper. The Acolyte ministry has its roots in the Old Testament, where the prophet Samuel is seen assisting Eli and Elisha is seen assisting Elijah the Prophet.


Eastern Christianity

In the Eastern Orthodox Church, the nearest equivalent of acolyte is the altar server. At one time there was a rank of minor clergy called the taper-bearer responsible for bearing lights during processions and liturgical entrances. However, this rank has long ago been subsumed by that of the reader and the service for the tonsure of a reader begins with the setting-aside of a taper-bearer.

The functions of an acolyte or taper-bearer are therefore carried out by readers, subdeacons or by non-tonsured men or boys who are sometimes called "acolytes" informally. Also, the term "altar-boys" is often used to refer to young altar servers.



Western Christianity

Roman Catholicism

Until 1972, the acolyte was the holder of the highest of four minor orders. By Pope Paul VI's motu proprio Ministeria quaedam of 15 August 1972, the term "minor orders" has been replaced by that of "ministries". Two such ministries, those of reader and acolyte are to be kept throughout the Latin Church. A prescribed interval, as decided by the Holy See and the national episcopal conference, is to be observed between receiving them. Candidates for diaconate and for priesthood must receive both ministries and exercise them for some time before receiving holy orders. The two ministries are not reserved solely for candidates for holy orders, but can be conferred only on men. The ministries are conferred by the ordinary; either a bishop or, in the case of clerical religious institutes, a major superior.
The motu proprio assigned to the acolyte the functions previously reserved for the subdeacon, and national episcopal conferences are free to use the term "subdeacon" in place of that of "acolyte" The functions of the acolyte are specified in the motu proprio, and have been indicated also in the General Instruction of the Roman Missal, no. 98, which says: "The acolyte is instituted to serve at the altar and to assist the priest and deacon. In particular, it is his responsibility to prepare the altar and the sacred vessels and, if it is necessary, as an extraordinary minister, to distribute the Eucharist to the faithful. In the ministry of the altar, the acolyte has his own functions (cf. nos. 187-193), which he must perform personally."
The General Instruction of the Roman Missal adds: "In the absence of an instituted acolyte, lay ministers may be deputed to serve at the altar and assist the priest and the deacon; they may carry the cross, the candles, the thurible, the bread, the wine, and the water, and they may also be deputed to distribute Holy Communion as extraordinary ministers."
The term "instituted acolyte", which does not appear in the 1972 motu proprio, is used in the General Instruction of the Roman Missal to distinguish those on whom the ministry has been conferred with the prescribed rite from others who, while sometimes called acolytes, are less ambiguously referred to as altar servers. While, in the absence of an instituted acolyte, an altar server may perform most of his functions, some are reserved for an instituted acolyte alone. Thus only an instituted acolyte is authorized to purify, wipe and arrange the sacred vessels after Holy Communion.


Anglicanism

In Anglican churches, altar servers are called acolytes and can be of either sex and any age (although usually no younger than ten).
An acolyte can assist in worship by carrying a processional cross, lighting candles, holding the Gospel book, holding candles or "torches", assisting a deacon or priest, set up and clean up at the altar, swinging a censer or thurible or carrying the incense boat, handing the offering plates to ushers, and many other tasks as seen fit by the priest or acolyte warden.

In some more traditional parishes, the acolytes are ranked as they develop their abilities to serve: Trainees, Junior Acolytes, Senior Acolytes, and Acolytes of Merit. In others, the functions of acolytes are performed without vestments, and without significant formal training by persons available in the parish. In other parishes, Acolytes are referred to according to the roles they perform.


Methodism and Lutheranism

In the Methodist and Lutheran traditions, acolytes participate in the worship service (or Mass) by carrying a processional cross or crucifix (these acolytes are called Crucifers), lighting and extinguishing the altar candles, and ringing the church bell to call the congregation to worship. In these traditions, the lighting of the altar candles in the worship service is a symbol of Jesus’ coming into the presence of the worshiping community. Before lighting the candles the acolyte is supposed to bow at the altar. Before the extinguishing of the last altar candles, the acolytes relight their "candle lighter" and then process out into the narthex.




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interestingly, and Rev and i had this discussion this morning, there are some congregations and some individuals who don't believe that girls should take part in being an acolyte - at my old home church, there was a lady who, when her daughter was in confirmation class, told our pastor that she didn't want her daughter to be acolyte, she didn't think it was right or proper for a girl to be doing that - pastor told her that being an acolyte was part service, part learning, and she had to be involved in something that encompassed both those things - so to satisfy that, she had 2 solid months (not back to back) where she did altar guild - setting up communion, cleaning up afterward, changing the paraments and banners, etc - so she still got in her service and her learning, and everybody was happy....

btw, she was the only one in our church who felt that way - all other juvenile female confirmation students do acolyte service....
 
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I must say that I myself am thrown off by female acolytes as well. Its a purly person reason, and its really got no foundation other than in my opinion, but I just don't like see girls in the "garbs" taking part of service...just doesn't feel right to me.

Would I stop a woman from doing so tho? nope..so long as they don't participate in the Altar ect, then fine..you can carry that cross or candle or whatever as long as you like...I'll just think you look weird doing it lol.
 
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the thing is, SfC, is that it isn't women doing it - it's girls, and it's for service and training purposes. i've been to several Lutheran churches and have never seen a woman as acolyte - i've seen boys and girls, and i've seen men (elders) - but never women.
 
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