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According to the Bible, is it difficult to get into heaven?
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<blockquote data-quote="Saramae" data-source="post: 73594363" data-attributes="member: 401705"><p>I guess I am just having a hard time reconciling a loving, forgiving God with one who would just cast us away because we didn't believe and never give us another chance, ever, no matter how much we repented.</p><p></p><p>I mean, despite being an atheist, I believe that it is logical to follow the Golden Rule (which happens to be very similar to what Jesus said was the second greatest commandment, I noticed when reading today). You don't do to other people what you would not want done to you, because you know you do not want others to inflict pain and suffering on you, so you don't do anything to them either, which keeps the peace...</p><p></p><p>And generally, if you just look at the 10 commandments, except the ones dealing directly with God, I have no trouble following any of them and have in my life. I generally try to be a decent person to others and to be patient, empathetic, and compassionate. I'm obviously far from perfect and I occasionally slip up and get angry and say something I don't mean, but overall I think I am not a bad person. It hurts me to think that God could see that I earnestly did not see enough evidence to believe in him but otherwise lived a good life and just be like, "Too bad; you get to go to Hell forever with no chance whatsoever to redeem yourself, ever."</p><p></p><p>I would really like to believe in God and I hope reading the Bible helps me. But I can't give lip service to something I do not truly feel in my heart. It is clear God did not want that either, which I noticed when I read Matthew 21:28-32. He would rather have me stray from him (as I did when I decided I was an atheist about 14 or so years ago) and then come back to him than for me to just say I believe in him but not truly feel it in my heart. So I guess I just have to wait and read for now and hope I figure it out before I die...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thank you for the resources; I will check out those links! I feel like perhaps it is human nature to doubt and our challenge to overcome that....it seems like all these people in the Bible doubted all the time, even with Jesus doing miracles and whatnot right in front of them. I'd like to think if someone proved to me in person that they could perform a miracle that I would believe, but....I guess if looked at from the context of modern times, most of us would think they were using tricks or technology to make it appear like a miracle.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Saramae, post: 73594363, member: 401705"] I guess I am just having a hard time reconciling a loving, forgiving God with one who would just cast us away because we didn't believe and never give us another chance, ever, no matter how much we repented. I mean, despite being an atheist, I believe that it is logical to follow the Golden Rule (which happens to be very similar to what Jesus said was the second greatest commandment, I noticed when reading today). You don't do to other people what you would not want done to you, because you know you do not want others to inflict pain and suffering on you, so you don't do anything to them either, which keeps the peace... And generally, if you just look at the 10 commandments, except the ones dealing directly with God, I have no trouble following any of them and have in my life. I generally try to be a decent person to others and to be patient, empathetic, and compassionate. I'm obviously far from perfect and I occasionally slip up and get angry and say something I don't mean, but overall I think I am not a bad person. It hurts me to think that God could see that I earnestly did not see enough evidence to believe in him but otherwise lived a good life and just be like, "Too bad; you get to go to Hell forever with no chance whatsoever to redeem yourself, ever." I would really like to believe in God and I hope reading the Bible helps me. But I can't give lip service to something I do not truly feel in my heart. It is clear God did not want that either, which I noticed when I read Matthew 21:28-32. He would rather have me stray from him (as I did when I decided I was an atheist about 14 or so years ago) and then come back to him than for me to just say I believe in him but not truly feel it in my heart. So I guess I just have to wait and read for now and hope I figure it out before I die... Thank you for the resources; I will check out those links! I feel like perhaps it is human nature to doubt and our challenge to overcome that....it seems like all these people in the Bible doubted all the time, even with Jesus doing miracles and whatnot right in front of them. I'd like to think if someone proved to me in person that they could perform a miracle that I would believe, but....I guess if looked at from the context of modern times, most of us would think they were using tricks or technology to make it appear like a miracle. [/QUOTE]
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