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According to Obama .......

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According to Obama: Our values are Americas greatest export to the world.

I know he can't be talking about values like sanctity of live and upright moral living, so what kind of values is he talking about, do you think?
 

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According to Obama: Our values are Americas greatest export to the world.

I know he can't be talking about values like sanctity of live and upright moral living, so what kind of values is he talking about, do you think?
He said that??????




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You're right, it's not morality - like the greedy crowds trampled a Wallmart worker to death & wound others including an 8 mos. pregnant woman while angrily charging thru the doors upon store reopening :o

He has to be talking about democracy/freedom. Then again, he's as far left as it gets, maybe he does think our morals are upstanding.
 
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The values that I imagine he is talking about is the hedonism that America stands for to most people in the world today. The fact that these values are what we export is in fact shameful, not great.

"The truth is that we, in our hyperprosperity, may be able to live with­out meaning, faith or purpose, filling our threescore years and ten with a variety of entertainments-but most of the world cannot. If economics is implicated in the conflict, it is mostly in an ironic sense: only an abundance of riches such as no previous generation has known could possibly console us for the emptiness of our lives, the absence of stable families and relationships, and the lack of any overarching purpose. And even within us, the pampered babies who populate the West, something-a rather big something-keeps rebelling against the hollowness of it all. But then our next consumer goodie comes along and keeps us happy and distracted for the next five minutes. Normal people (that is, the rest of the world), however, cannot exist without real meaning, without religion anchored in something deeper than existentialism and bland niceness, without a culture rooted deep in the soil of the place where they live. Yet it is these things that globalization threatens to demolish. And we wonder that they are angry?" ---Meic Pearse, Why the Rest Hates the West, p. 29

I haven't read this book yet, but I think that I am going to.
 
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He said that??????




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You're right, it's not morality - like the greedy crowds trampled a Wallmart worker to death & wound others including an 8 mos. pregnant woman while angrily charging thru the doors upon store reopening :o

He has to be talking about democracy/freedom. Then again, he's as far left as it gets, maybe he does think our morals are upstanding.

This is the exact quote. I heard just the tail end of that portion while I was exercising at the gym.
Obama said:
And so, in this uncertain world, the time has come for a new beginning - a new dawn of American leadership to overcome the challenges of the 21st century, and to seize the opportunities embedded in those challenges. We will strengthen our capacity to defeat our enemies and support our friends. We will renew old alliances and forge new and enduring partnerships. We will show the world once more that America is relentless in defense of our people, steady in advancing our interests, and committed to the ideals that shine as a beacon to the world: democracy and justice; opportunity and unyielding hope - because American values are America's greatest export to the world.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/12/obama_announces_his_national_s.html
 
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Perhaps he is talking about the same values that made Michelle ashamed of her country?

Nah, just politician speak. Just words on a teleprompter.
 
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According to Obama: Our values are Americas greatest export to the world.

I know he can't be talking about values like sanctity of live and upright moral living, so what kind of values is he talking about, do you think?

From his ultra liberal background I have no idea.
 
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According to Obama: Our values are Americas greatest export to the world.

I know he can't be talking about values like sanctity of live and upright moral living, so what kind of values is he talking about, do you think?
Probably the values that keep people from killing each other just because someone else may not go to the nearby Protestant church. That sort of thing.


Other than that, I haven't a clue. This country is getting so secularized we almost have no values.
 
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Probably the values that keep people from killing each other just because someone else may not go to the nearby Protestant church. That sort of thing.


Other than that, I haven't a clue. This country is getting so secularized we almost have no values.

:cool:Emperor Constantine~you need to come around more often!
 
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