ufonium2 said:
I don't know about where you live, but here the Mormon church constantly advertises to let women know that they will find homes for unwanted children. I know several other churches do the same,
That isn't what I asked. I asked how many of you (plural)
personally have adopted such a baby. My problem is that, yes, I see the counseling. But I have never seen any information on whether individual pro-lifers actually adopt such children.
So, everyone, please answer on a
personal leve. How many of you pro-lifers have adopted a baby that was going to be aborted? How many know
personally of pro-lifers who have done so?
Ther are also countless Christian group homes around, and I know of a couple in my area whose church gave them over $10,000 to help pay for adoption and childcare costs.
That's a drop in the bucket compared to the cost of raising a kid. I believe the total cost is over $100,000 now. It must be more than that since college alone today is about $40,000 even for state schools. So, how long does the church provide this support? Was this a one-time thing for the adoption? Or did they provide a yearly stipend?
Also, that is one baby. How many abortions are there in the US per year? If all those were stopped, do the pro-lifers plan on contributing enough for each child throughout his childhood?
Secondly, your argument isn't a valid one anyway. What if I decide my grandparents have become a burden to me, and I'd rather kill them than deal with it?
We provide programs to support our elderly. We all kick in in the form of taxes for Medicare and Social Security. Are you prepared to kick in additional taxes to provide for all the kids that will be born if you succeed in eliminatintg abortion? IOW, are you willing to put your money where you mouth is?
Sure, if I abandoned them they could still get low cost gov't housing and medical care and could continue to live,
BINGO! Yes, we have all taken on the responsibility to care for people. I'm just wondering if you are willing to take on the responsibility for all those babies and provide financially for them during childhood.
It works the same way with babies. Unwanted babies don't get thrown out in the street, at least not in America, whether the church intervenes or not. They are cared for, often adopted, and generally make it to adulthood.
Ah! But
you don't have to pay for it. You can foist that responsibility off on 1) the parent, 2) charitable organizations that
you don't have to give to.
Furthermore, if you decide to keep a child, and are truly unable to financially support it, the government will help.
Yes, but how about
you? You are saying this child is valuable. You are saying this child
must be born. Yet getting a child born is the least amount of effort required to
raise a child. What you are doing, it seems to me, is washing your hands of that child and putting the hard work off on everyone else. I question your real committment to the
child's welfare. It seems to me that you don't really care about the
child at all. As soon as it is born, you don't care what happens to it, with the possible exception of building prisons to house the adult in case all those others didn't raise it properly and the child turns criminal. What is your stance on prisons? Should we spend our tax dollars to build more?
People in America don't chose abortion because nobody is willing to care for the child.
They choose abortion because they are not
able to financially raise a child. IOW, they don't have the resources to raise a child. "Caring for the child" as in warehousing them is totally different than raising a child.