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Stuco said:From a logical stand point I look at it this way.
Sex is meant for reproduction, right? So why have sex if you dont want a kid?
Its an oxy moron.
Seeking... said:Then explain it to me.
From your viewpoint, what is it that makes the life of a fetus so important that a woman should be made to carry it to term against her will.
Perhaps you believe all life to be sacred, but the biggest loss of human life reproductively isn't abortion. Our reproductive systems are designed to be incredibly wasteful of life. Women are only capable of conceiving a few days out of each month - so most eggs and sperm are spent fruitlessly. In addition, most conceptions end in miscarriage - not pregnancy. Why is the abortion more tragic than the miscarriage? The end result to the child is the same, no better or worse.
LittleNipper said:5-7% of rapes end in pregnancy. Of course they never tell you what percent of "rapes" actually were not rapes at all, or what percent of the "rape" victims were already engaged in sex with the very guy they are claiming to have been raped by, or what percent of abortions are procured by prostitues.
Archivist said:This just keeps getting better and better. Now the women who are raped and become pregnant are liars. Would you care to offer evidence to support this position?
No, this is a bad analogy. Your original claim was that "those same people" who support a woman's right to choose opposed removing "morning Bible reading in Public school." You offered no proof of this, only opinion. If you have proof please provide it. Obviously your claim is wrong because I am one of "those same people," yet I believe that the removal of manditory Bible reading from public schools was a good thing.
So it is only "superficial" when a woman whose life is in danger beacuse of a pregnancy survives because of a safe abortion.
Jetgirl said:Now that is one huge trailer of manuer.
It doesn't matter if I've had sex with the guy, it doesn't even matter if I've been MARRIED to him for fifty years! If a man physically forces me to have sex with him, it's rape. Period.
As far as prostitutes, I honestly don't know how many have abortions.
WhiteTiger2999 said:Oh yeah and on a second note.... if your a woman and your thinking on abortion.. next time your around a baby.. just gaze into thier eyes and listen to them giggle. People complain that they never see a mirical occur. My brother once said, "when in doubt that miricals exist, look at trees and thier process of photosynthisis, that they can absorb sunlight convert it to engery and give us fresh air".. i say this to you, "when i doubt of a mirical.. look to a newborn baby and image what thier future will be. Then imagine yourself not existing because your parents decided foolishly you should not live".
WhiteTiger2999 said:Oh yeah and on a second note... if you're a woman and your thinking about an abortion, next time you're around a baby, just gaze into its eyes and listen to it giggle. People complain that they never see a miracle occur. My brother once said, "When you doubt that miracles exist, look at trees and their process of photosynthesis: they can absorb sunlight and convert it to engery and give us fresh air." I say this to you, "When i doubt of a miracle, look at a newborn baby and imagine what its future will be. Then imagine yourself not existing because your mother decided foolishly that you should not live".
Thank God we didnt miss out on your pearls of wisdom...In A Perfect World said:For someone who brags that children are miracles, I tell you they are not miracles and certainly not "miricals". They can be explained. For someone who is fascinated with the process of photosynthesis, you don't know how to spell it. Oh, and by the way, nice using the example "think about what would happen if your mom aborted you" - I wouldn't be here to think about it anyway, what's the point? Big deal - I don't exist and I certainly wouldn't be a dime wiser.
You didn't have to say it. You have free will and a conscience. And numerous books to help you get back on track. You wouldn't care? You don't even know me. You've ultimately just proved you don't care if people have abortions or not. Next time you make a joke, review it and compare it to that which you stand for, else you will slip and sacrifice your integrity in an attempt to insult someone.WhiteTiger2999 said:well geez your worse than my high school english teacher. This is a forum of opinions, and thats my opinion. Well for one, if your mother chose to abort you.. heh well i wouldnt care either way, and well on a mean *****y note.. shed probably be a lot happier.. oh thats so mean of me to say. I take it back that was cruel of me to say, but i had to.
= The pot calling the kettle black. You've just reproached someone for repaying in kind when you were the one who first tried to debase her arguement with ad hominem and your personal opinion;In A Perfect World said:You didn't have to say it. You have free will and a conscience. And numerous books to help you get back on track. You wouldn't care? You don't even know me. You've ultimately just proved you don't care if people have abortions or not. Next time you make a joke, review it and compare it to that which you stand for, else you will slip and sacrifice your integrity in an attempt to insult someone.
First you tell her shes wrong because her point of view varies from your narrow scope of things, then you attempt to belittle her views because of spelling. Sad.In A Perfect World said:For someone who brags that children are miracles, I tell you they are not miracles and certainly not "miricals". They can be explained. For someone who is fascinated with the process of photosynthesis, you don't know how to spell it. Oh, and by the way, nice using the example "think about what would happen if your mom aborted you" - I wouldn't be here to think about it anyway, what's the point? Big deal - I don't exist and I certainly wouldn't be a dime wiser.
And i bet she tells you she loves you every day since you still live with your parents.In A Perfect World said:By the way, my mother loves me very much, and I wouldn't think of making a comment like you made about me to you. I don't hate you.
You're making the claim, you provide the statistics to back this up.And tell me, how many women have cried rape as a means to hurt a man for whatever reason and how does the man prove that he was so manipulated?
Completely irrelevent. A baby is not the same as an embryo or a lump of cells. And I've never found there to be anything special about babies anyway.Oh yeah and on a second note.... if your a woman and your thinking on abortion.. next time your around a baby.. just gaze into thier eyes and listen to them giggle.
Again, completely irrelvent. You cannot imagine non-existence. And if you were aborted, you'd never know.Then imagine yourself not existing because your parents decided foolishly you should not live
Jerusha_Girl said:I am not biologically dependant on society to survive. I will grow, function, and live regardless of what my mother is doing. If my mother were to die tomorrow, I wouldn't die with her. However, if my mother was pregnant and she died, I wouldn't have continued to develop. Unless she had reached the point of viability in the pregnancy, I wouldn't have continued to function biologically.
i'm sure you know this, but there's a big difference between being dependant on society to give you a place to go grocery shopping, and dependant on a specific person to keep your heart beating, blood flowing, and otherwise functional.
Yes all those things add up to ....reality. A reality the mother has created for herself(barring rape). Your arguement is founded on selfishness and immaturity and states simply "I want to play but i dont want to pay". Your arguement states that killing a life in order for you not to be inconvenienced is the right choice based on a theory of practicality. So you've just put a price tag on a life and in doing so declared your net worth.Jerusha_Girl said:Yeah, right.
Then gaze at the kid after he throws up all over the back of the car and screams bloody murder the whole way home. Then take a gander at the medical bill for the "wellness check" and worry about how much it'd cost if the child actually wasn't well. Then take a wander down aisle 7 at the grocery store and prepare to be shocked at the cost of diapers, wipes, formula, bottles, clothing, powder, soaps, food... Then think about what it'll be like going to sleep tonight at 9, then waking up at 12, 2, and 5 for feedings. Then picture yourself writing a check for daycare so you can work to afford to put the kid in daycare. Then imagine doing all of that on an income that can't support you, much less you and another person.
Gazing into the eyes of a child is the "Disney movie" answer, but it has nothing to do with real life. Gazing into the eyes of a child doesn't make it easier to put food on the table or care for him or her.
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