Abortion

[Steve_SandbachBaptist_UK]

My church had a visit tonight from a pro-life campaigner and his talk was very convincing, and it made me see abortion in a new light. What really brought it home to be was seeing a picture of an aborted baby, it was horrible.

So I thought I'd let you know of my newly found pro-life stance. I was previously neutral on the subject.

 

[StormeTorque]

Would you prefer it if abortion was made illegal?

 

[Martin^^]

I watched the channel 4 documentary on abortion, which contained images and descriptions which I found challenging and disturbing. There is another side to the emotive images though, expressed by the writer of this article:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1195633,00.html

 

[Steve_SandbachBaptist_UK]

I've just sent the author of that piece the following email:


Dear Ms Ashley

I write having belatedly read (via a link) your article on abortion on April 20, 2004.

You state that you had no ability to bring up a child - but does anyone really know whether this ability before they've had the experience? You also talk about "the effect on your life" if you had a child. How would you feel if your mother had had the same attitude and aborted you? Would you, as such, have supported your own abortion. Finally, you say your relationship was not secure: apart from the obvious point about contraception (or perhaps you did use contraception but it didn't work), again I would ask whether you would have accepted this as an excuse if you were in the child's shoes?

Your thoughts would be appreciated.

 

[BarbB]

I've just sent the author of that piece the following email:


Dear Ms Ashley

I write having belatedly read (via a link) your article on abortion on April 20, 2004.

You state that you had no ability to bring up a child - but does anyone really know whether this ability before they've had the experience? You also talk about "the effect on your life" if you had a child. How would you feel if your mother had had the same attitude and aborted you? Would you, as such, have supported your own abortion. Finally, you say your relationship was not secure: apart from the obvious point about contraception (or perhaps you did use contraception but it didn't work), again I would ask whether you would have accepted this as an excuse if you were in the child's shoes?

Your thoughts would be appreciated.

Great email, but you could have added, "Could you not take a few months out of your life to give someone you conceived a chance at life through adoption by a loving couple?"

Narcsisism knows no bounds - only me, me, me!

 

[Alecto]

My church had a visit tonight from a pro-life campaigner and his talk was very convincing, and it made me see abortion in a new light. What really brought it home to be was seeing a picture of an aborted baby, it was horrible.

So I thought I'd let you know of my newly found pro-life stance. I was previously neutral on the subject.

Thats great, I applaud your enthusiasm, but please please please think about it. Consider if a pro-life campaign representitive is the best place for un-biased information. Do your own research on BOTH sides of the fence.

Im not saying what you chose was wrong, I dont agree with it, but you certainly have the right to have that opinion. Im just saying, before you commit to ANY side of ANYTHING, research it.

 

[Jetgirl]

Narcsisism knows no bounds - only me, me, me!

Ah, but on the other hand we have a groups saying only -"fetus fetus fetus", with little or no recognition that there's a woman attached.

Just a point, not a conclusion.

 

[]RiSeN[]

I always love it when somebody poses the "what would you have done if you were aborted" question. If she had been aborted, she wouldn't have known it, which makes the question, well... Pointless. It seems silly to say you'd resent your mother if she'd aborted you, since if you were aborted, you wouldn't know it at all.

The statement is not to be taken as a lesson in chronology. It is simply put to make one look at the issue in a new light, from a different angle on a personal level. The 'what if it was happening to you' clause.

We do not let the opinions of children decide what is best for a family. That is the duty of the adult. Since we don't rely on those opinions from children, it'd be impossible to have the opinion of the fetus, since the fetus lacks the self or situational awareness which would be required to make any decision.

Some of the children today are being raised by children.

You want to tell me that the 16 year old girl who got pregnant because of her own irresponsible actions knows whats best for her and the new life growing inside her? If she is so knowledgeable and wise on whats best for herself and those around her, why and how is she in the self-induced predicament shes in? Your arguement is riddled with the notion that 'Privilege over Principle' is advantageous. This is incorrect.

"A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both."
-Dwight D. Eisenhower

Your inexperiance may lead you to disagree, as it shines through in your opinions.

 

[Stuco]

From a logical stand point I look at it this way.

Sex is meant for reproduction, right? So why have sex if you dont want a kid?

Its an oxy moron.

 

[flicka]

From a logical stand point I look at it this way.

Sex is meant for reproduction, right? So why have sex if you dont want a kid?

Its an oxy moron.

I wanted (and have) two kids. I guess having sex two times in the last 23 yrs of my marriage would have been enough

 

[Spinrad]

So now that I have had my snip job I don't get to have any more sex?

 

[]RiSeN[]

The issue is accepting of responsability throughout ones decision making, carried out and reflected through ones actions.

 

[In A Perfect World]

From a logical stand point I look at it this way.

Sex is meant for reproduction, right? So why have sex if you dont want a kid?

Its an oxy moron.

Sex is a natural act that induces fertilization and reproduction. It's made FUN so people who don't want kids will be tempted anyway. It's the way animals (including us) have babies. People use birth control because they like sex and just don't want babies.

 

[Stuco]

flika,Spinard, dont worry, you both managed to miss the point.

And no, its made so people and animals will want to have kids. Im not aginst birth control when its used the right way, but if it fails..................well then whose fault is it? But I know of a full proof birth control(If youve allready heard this cover your ears). It was found a long time ago out in the woods. It was extracted from the yam plant. All you need is one leaf. You get the leaf and then put it between your knees and hold it there. And I promise you as long as you keep that leaf between your knees youll NEVER get pregnant.

Let me put it this way. Do you want sex or do you need sex?
And in need I mean for YOU to live.

NOW pull up a chair and sit on the floor.

The addmission is free just pay at the gate.

 

[ImMrDurp]

If done early, abortion is fine. You're not killing a baby, you're killing what could become a baby. I believe the fetus isn't human until it can think, which is very late. So it should be legal, and if you dont like abortions...dont get one. Simple as that.

Since it's still a potential baby, should it be illegal for me to take a jar of my sperm and throw it on the pavement, killing it? Or should it be illegal for women to take the pill or use a patch? No.

 

[jesusfreak3786]

Duh, that other side of the story is so lame. I just turned 16, 6 days before I concieved my oldest daughter, I was 30+ pounds underweight, addicted to drugs, with a person who later strangled me and threatened to kill me several times, and on my own in another state for the first time in my young life. I look into the eyes of one of the most beautiful poeple I have ever seen in my life every morning now, I am a mother of two young children raising them on my own, with no help from the gov, or family, I don't even collect child support. (God helps tremenously of course) To anyone who says thats a good reason to kill a child who was concived into the same situation as my daughter, I say they need to be put in jail! It isn't easy, and it never was, I was single with two kids a month after I turned 19, and abused up until that point, but that is NO reason to kill a child. I will never simpathise with such BS the victim is the baby, not the lazy woman.

 

[Cheli]

I will never simpathise with such BS the victim is the baby, not the lazy woman.

What about the lazy rape victim?

 

[Cheli]

Sex is meant for reproduction, right? So why have sex if you dont want a kid?

I never want children. Does that mean I should never have sex?

 

[Followers4christ]

Thou shall not Kill fith commandment.It dose not matter if you kill your unborn baby or you kill Your boss.Murder is murder.

.REVALATION 21:8 "But the cowardly,the unbelieving,the vile.the MURDERERS,the sexually immoral,those who practice magic arts,the idolaters,and all liars there place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfer this is the second death."
Why not allow abortion for rape pregnancies?

We must approach this with great compassion. The woman has been subjected to an ugly trauma, and she needs love, support and help. But she has been the victim of one violent act. Should we now ask her to be a party to a second violent act -that of abortion? Unquestionably, many would return the violence of killing an innocent baby for the violence of rape.

12:15"love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth".GOD BLESS

 

[Cheli]

Thou shall not Kill fith commandment.It dose not matter if you kill your unborn baby or you kill Your boss.Murder is murder.

What about all the people god kills in the bible? What about all the people killed in his name?