Abortion TV adverts

[Allister]

Pregnancy advisory services - including abortion information - could be advertised on TV and radio under proposals due to be released.
Restrictions on condom adverts could also be relaxed, as part of plans aimed at reducing high UK rates of teenage pregnancy and sexual infections.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7964826.stm

I have created a CF News thread here:
http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7356551

This thread however is intended to discuss the ethical and moral significance of advertising Abortion advice, along with Pre-Watershed Condom adverts, on Television....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watershed_(television)#United_Kingdom


Thoughts please....

 

[Lobster]

Why shouldn't the information be made available?

 

[wanderingone]

I'm not a fan of ads for individual prescription drugs or medical procedures - I think public service ads that provide information on prevention, and on getting help when you have an unplanned pregnancy are fine and while I think it would probably be silly to air them during certain periods of time I don't see why it would be a bad thing to air a "use birth control" ad at 7pm.

 

[brightmorningstar]

As the current sex education, which tends to avoid even the option of abstinence, plus increased availibilty of condoms and abortion increases we have seen a rise in abortions and STD's.
I would have thought that it was obvious that the current policy isnt working, I think this is like pouring petrol on the fire. ....Irresponsible.

 

[Washington]

If condoms, "the pill," and abortions are legal, what's the problem?

 

[Belk]

As the current sex education, which tends to avoid even the option of abstinence, plus increased availibilty of condoms and abortion increases we have seen a rise in abortions and STD's.
I would have thought that it was obvious that the current policy isnt working, I think this is like pouring petrol on the fire. ....Irresponsible.

What bizarre sex ed class are you going too? Most comprehensive sex ed classes that I have ever heard of stress that appurtenance is the only %100 effective method, but if you are going to have sex that prophylactics are a good idea.

 

[Autumnleaf]

I think they should have commercials for morphine, Vicodin, and Xanax. People seem to really like those drugs and they are legal with a prescription. You should ask your doctor about them...

 

[Skaloop]

As the current sex education, which tends to avoid even the option of abstinence, plus increased availibilty of condoms and abortion increases we have seen a rise in abortions and STD's.

Perhaps. But there is more of a rise in abortions/teen pregnancy and STDs in places where they teach less about prevention and more about abstinence.

I would have thought that it was obvious that the current policy isnt working, I think this is like pouring petrol on the fire. ....Irresponsible.

The current policy isn't working because there is still a taboo in the US about teen sex that hinders open and free discussion of sexual matters and dilutes the information that is given.

 

[Autumnleaf]

Perhaps. But there is more of a rise in abortions/teen pregnancy and STDs in places where they teach less about prevention and more about abstinence.

This seems counter intuitive. Link please.

The current policy isn't working because there is still a taboo in the US about teen sex that hinders open and free discussion of sexual matters and dilutes the information that is given.

That dog won't hunt.

Do we live in the same US? Turn on the television. Watch a movie. Listen to what kids listen to on the radio. Sex is everywhere.

 

[Skaloop]

This seems counter intuitive. Link please.

"Conservative" states have higher teen pregnancy rates than "liberal" states, despite having more aggressive abstinence-only education. It's not exact, but the trend is there (http://www.thenationalcampaign.org/national-data/pdf/STBYST07.pdf). And internationally, the US has a much higher teen pregnancy rate (http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_ATSRH.html#ref30) than other developed nations with more extensive sex education.

That dog won't hunt.

Do we live in the same US? Turn on the television. Watch a movie. Listen to what kids listen to on the radio. Sex is everywhere.

You misunderstand me. Yes, sex is everywhere. But talking to young teenagers about the act of sex in a frank and honest educational manner is not.

 

[Autumnleaf]

"Conservative" states have higher teen pregnancy rates than "liberal" states, despite having more aggressive abstinence-only education. It's not exact, but the trend is there (http://www.thenationalcampaign.org/national-data/pdf/STBYST07.pdf). And internationally, the US has a much higher teen pregnancy rate (http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_ATSRH.html#ref30) than other developed nations with more extensive sex education.

How do you know those numbers are accurate as they don't seem to take into account abortions. Sure states that tended to vote Republican have more pregnancy/(live) births. How many dead births happened in each state? It would stand to reason the Democrat states had many more of those.

You misunderstand me. Yes, sex is everywhere. But talking to young teenagers about the act of sex in a frank and honest educational manner is not.

How do you know that is true?

 

[Skaloop]

How do you know those numbers are accurate as they don't seem to take into account abortions. Sure states that tended to vote Republican have more pregnancy/(live) births. How many dead births happened in each state? It would stand to reason the Democrat states had many more of those.

The first link I gave you was for pregancies. Later on they have actual live births. Liberal states do have a higher proportion of abortions, but they have fewer pregnancies in the first place.

Also, see here:
http://www.religiousconsultation.or...lenges_abstinence_for_teen_pregnancy_drop.htm

How do you know that is true?

Just a hunch, really. But do you really think that teachers and parents are totally free and open and honest in their discussions of sex, contraceptives, the use of contraceptives, and the like?

 

[solarwave]

To be honest I see why advertising condoms might be ok, since if your gunna have sex you might as well do it safely. But advertising abortion..... why. If you get pregant by your own fault then live with it, actions have consequences, killing a child shouldn't be the easy way out.

 

[lawtonfogle]

This seems counter intuitive. Link please.

If abstinence teaching worked, it would be counter intuitive. If abstinence education failed, it wouldn't be.

 

[ranmaonehalf]

As the current sex education, which tends to avoid even the option of abstinence, plus increased availibilty of condoms and abortion increases we have seen a rise in abortions and STD's.
I would have thought that it was obvious that the current policy isnt working, I think this is like pouring petrol on the fire. ....Irresponsible.

Now its interesting that the majority of unwanted pregnancies are due to NOT using a condom.

 

[Wyzaard]

If you get pregant by your own fault then live with it, actions have consequences, killing a child shouldn't be the easy way out.

And punishing her with a child is the better course? Rubbish.

 

[Nathan45]

Advertising an abortion service would be utterly tasteless, and I say that as someone who's pro-choice. I can't imagine anyone would actually run one even if it was legal.

 

[DZoolander]

This seems counter intuitive. Link please.



That dog won't hunt.

Do we live in the same US? Turn on the television. Watch a movie. Listen to what kids listen to on the radio. Sex is everywhere.

Ehhh - I'd agree with you to an extent... The allusion of sex is everywhere.

Not many frank and open discussions about it though.

 

[Ectezus]

To be honest I see why advertising condoms might be ok, since if your gunna have sex you might as well do it safely. But advertising abortion..... why.

Why? Well jee, lets think... How about education? Informing people of their options?

If you get pregant by your own fault then live with it, actions have consequences, killing a child shouldn't be the easy way out.

Life with it? Even if the parents can't support the child financially? Even if the circumstances are horrible like rape? There are countless of possibilities why keeping a child isn't always the best option.

For many people these arguments far outweigh the argument that "removing a foetus is bad".

 

[Ectezus]

Advertising an abortion service would be utterly tasteless, and I say that as someone who's pro-choice. I can't imagine anyone would actually run one even if it was legal.

Kinda hard to win an argument when you're not allowed to advertise and your opposition can do anything they want like labeling everyone who opposes them as baby-killers.

And why would an abortion ad be tasteless? If you think of showing dead foetuses, then yes. In which case you really shouldn't be in the advertisement business to begin with.
It's about choice and having options. The choice of the women to decide what the best option is.

- Ectezus