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Abortion kills an unborn child in the womb.

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The 1996 United Pentecostal Church general conference authorized a letter to President Clinton in which the USA UPC expresses its outrage at his veto. Clinton had said that he vetoes the bill because it did not provide for saving the mother's life. In answer, the UPC letter quoted a Wall Street Journal article co-authored by Doctor Nancy Romer, clinical professor of obstetrics and gynecology at Wright State University and chairperson of obstetrics and gynecology at Miami Valley Hospital in Ohio. She said:


Contrary to what abortion activists would have us believe, partial-birth abortion is never medically indicated to protect a woman's health or her fertility. In fact, the opposite is true. The procedure can pose a significant and immediate threat to both the pregnant woman's health and her fertility.

Consider the dangers inherent in partial-birth abortion, which usually occurs after the fifth month of pregnancy. A woman's cervix is forcibly dilated over several days, which risks creating an "incompetent cervix," the leading cause of premature deliveries. It is also an invitation to infection, a major cause of infertility. The abortionist then reaches into the womb to pull a child feet first out of the mother, but leaves the head inside. Under normal circumstances, physicians avoid breech births whenever possible; in this case, the doctor internally causes one--and risks tearing the uterus in the process. He then forces scissors through the base of the baby's skull--which remains lodged just within the birth canal. This is a partially "blind" procedure, done by feel, risking direct scissors injury to the uterus and laceration of the cervix or lower uterine segment, resulting in immediate and massive bleeding and the threat of shock or even death to the mother.

None of this risk is ever necessary for any reason. Never is the partial-birth procedure necessary. Not for hydrocephaly (excessive cerebrospinal fluid in the head), not for polyhydramnios (an excess amount of amniotic fluid collecting in the women) and not for trisomy (genetic abnormalities characterized by an extra chromosome).

Sometimes, as in the case of hydrocephaly, it is first necessary to drain some of the fluid from the baby's head. And in some cases, when vaginal delivery is not possible, a doctor performs a Caesarian section. But in no case is it necessary to partially deliver an infant through the vagina and then kill the infant."
 

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Intact D&X, or partial birth abortion first involves administration of medications to cause the cervix to dilate, usually over the course of several days. Next, the physician rotates the fetus to a footling breech position. The body of the fetus is then drawn out of the uterus feet first, until only the head remains inside the uterus. Then, the physician uses an instrument to puncture the base of the skull, which collapses the fetal head. Typically, the contents of the fetal head are then partially suctioned out, which results in the death of the fetus and reduces the size of the fetal head enough to allow it to pass through the cervix. The dead and otherwise intact fetus is then removed from the woman's body.
 
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Abortion in general just gets me so upset. I don't take part in many of the conversations or debates about it, but I thought I'd chime in here...

From what I've read on this topic, I honestly can't imagine the justification. I'm against abortion for the same reason I'm against killing kittens for convenience (Yeah, PETA and I have one thing in common, I think...). I don't think innocent life should just be treated as inconsequential, much more for human life, but I'd almost rather see women get abortions using a safer means. Preferentially I'd rather see abortion vanish completely, but that's as hard as saying I wish rape would vanish completely, or premarital sex in general would vanish completely.

But might I ask what the point of this thread is?
 
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Is God responsible for the fertilized egg's inability to adhere to the uterine wall? Or for the woman's hormone imbalance which makes her body unable to maintain the pregnancy?

the vast majority of conceptions.

Some conceptions result in faulty fertilized eggs which are not viable. That is the difference. What is aborted naturally is not viable. What is aborted unnaturally IS viable. It, therefore, has a God-given right to life.

By placing the blame for natural abortions on God, the logical conclusion would be to admit that all viable pregnancies have a God-given right to live.
 
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Yes, I agree intricatic... it's a sad issue and one that hasn't been resolved in over 30 years.

The main thing that needs to change in the abortion law though is to prove that the unborn have the same rights as the people who are born and alive and thriving on their own.

It's an unfortunate truth that the constitution was never written to include rights to the unborn because one doesn't know that the pregnancy will for sure carry full term. Thus, the constitution of the United States is written to protect the rights of the individual. And, again, unfortunately the rights as an individual are written for those who are alive and thriving on their own as an individual -- which means separate from the mother, which equals the word 'born'.

If one thinks back in history, infantile death rates were much higher than they are today... so the constitution needs to be re-written to include rights of the unborn. This is what lobbying groups need to shift their focus upon if we want to see any real change.

However, that doesn't mean unscrupulous doctors won't pop up anywhere or everywhere in hidden and secret places.

There are a lot of unscrupulous doctors, just as there are of course many doctors of great scruples.

But back to my point, now that the infant mortality rate is much, much lower... I wonder if the constitution could be re-written to include the unborn?

If so, that is definately where the change needs to be addressed.

Anyhow, I also don't understand the point of this thread either? But just thought I'd chime in, too.
 
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