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Abortion is criminal

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Is for you ever made an abortion or have you been in such life situation, that you have planning to make an abortion? This situation has certainly come ahead of many women, and they have hesitated, how to act in this matter, when they have not been mentally prepared question situation.

We are going to discuss with next lines from this matter, every certainly is not lightest subjects. We are going to process especially it, is abortion correct, what matters are used to its justification and how the development of the person generally takes place. In that these points are important to clarify, because of these depends much, what we think about from this matter.

In any case among other things next citing indicates very well to us, how difficult matter unexpected pregnancy can be to many persons, especially if they are not mentally prepared it and been ready for it - it can feel of them from heavy the burden. From this example goes also sign, that despite from all propaganda for many who has made abortion is later comprehension that after all they made wrong. They could feel guilty about it, but they can't cancel it anymore.

... After the moment silence, Nakagawa-san continues:.

- In the summer I came pregnant and I wanted abortion. I supposed, that I would not have the energy in any way start again take care for baby, when Daisuke has just got three years old. All think about nowadays, that two children are enough to one family. Also the training pay so much money. So without unthinking I went to doctor and I gave to destroy that small life, which grew in my stomach.

To the eye of the young woman rise tears. And also to my eyes .

- Just later I understood, what I had done. I felt like I would killed by my own hand my children. Then just I understood, that I am a sinner. I’m not better than other murderers. ..

- Who said to you, that abortion is a sin? Did you hear it in the church? I feel quickly difficult to get Japanese words out from my mouth.

- Not at all. Yes we Japanese in principle know, that abortion is wrong, but in practise many in any case do it. They, who get troubled with their conscience, can go to the special "temple of abortive fetus" to beg on the behalf of the soul of her children, and they take there small picture of Buddha. The mother-in-law advised also that I go such temple, when she saw how miserable I am. But I don’t want to go, because I don't believe for those gods.

I thought in my mind, that the law of God is apparently written to conscience of man, was him/her then Christian or Buddha. But the gospel has preached by someone – The gospel can’t anyone find from his heart. (1).
 

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This raises the common fallacy of equating the experiences of the individual with those of people as a whole. A single person is not a mirror in which you can see the entirety of humanity reflected. People are different, either by upbringing, experience, or internal individual differences in mental structure. Some people like pork, while others don't, so assuming humans do not like pork from a handful of individual testimonies is flawed. Likewise, people will react differently to abortion. Some will react as the giver of the testimonial posted in the OP, while others will not. For some, an abortion will be a negative experience, while others will find the benefits of the procedure to outweigh or supercede negative impacts.
 
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Being promiscuous shows how mature the person is; especially since the folks who don’t use protection use abortion as a means of birth control.

Too many sexual diseases in the world to be foolin’ around indiscriminately: then being vocal about how it’s their ‘right’ to terminate another human beings life for the lifestyle they choose.
 
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MediocrityInAction said:
This raises the common fallacy of equating the experiences of the individual with those of people as a whole. A single person is not a mirror in which you can see the entirety of humanity reflected. People are different, either by upbringing, experience, or internal individual differences in mental structure. Some people like pork, while others don't, so assuming humans do not like pork from a handful of individual testimonies is flawed. Likewise, people will react differently to abortion. Some will react as the giver of the testimonial posted in the OP, while others will not. For some, an abortion will be a negative experience, while others will find the benefits of the procedure to outweigh or supercede negative impacts.

There is no thought or feeling in one human being that is not common to man. We were all born of the flesh. We all have envy, anger, sloth, lust, pride, gluttony, and greed. None of us is any better or worse than the next person. :wave:
 
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Remnant said:
Being promiscuous shows how mature the person is; especially since the folks who don’t use protection use abortion as a means of birth control.

Too many sexual diseases in the world to be foolin’ around indiscriminately: then being vocal about how it’s their ‘right’ to terminate another human beings life for the lifestyle they choose.

Not all people who have abortions are promiscuous. Some just happen to be the .1% for whom birth control did not work. Even vasectomies are not failsafe, as the severed tubes can actually grow back together. I once heard of a married couple: the man had had a vasectomy, and the woman had had a tubal ligation. The woman got pregnant anyway. :eek:
 
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Lokisdottir said:
Not all people who have abortions are promiscuous. Some just happen to be the .1% for whom birth control did not work. Even vasectomies are not failsafe, as the severed tubes can actually grow back together. I once heard of a married couple: the man had had a vasectomy, and the woman had had a tubal ligation. The woman got pregnant anyway. :eek:
Very true. A very good friend of mine used the pill and condoms, condom broke and now she has a 2 month old baby girl.
 
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Being promiscuous shows how mature the person is; especially since the folks who don’t use protection use abortion as a means of birth control.

Too many sexual diseases in the world to be foolin’ around indiscriminately: then being vocal about how it’s their ‘right’ to terminate another human beings life for the lifestyle they choose.

Well, I would agree that it is often the immature who make rash decisions to give into their impulses and sleep around a lot, but just because someone has had an abortion does not mean she is promiscuous, and just because someone has not had one does not mean they are abstinent or have not had many partners. People are different and choose abortion for different reasons. A friend of mine had an abortion at fifteen after being raped -- I don't think she made a poor choice and I know she was not promiscuous. At that age, with her parents encouraging termination, unable to support herself and so traumatised that she could not endure the pregnancy, abortion probably was the best option. I frown upon people using it as birth control as well. If someone wants to be sexually active they should take some responsibility for themselves and protect themselves, but not everyone who has aborted is necessarily immature.

As far as being vocal, many of the people who stand for pro-choice actually are not in favour of abortion. Most would not choose to have an abortion themselves and understand that abortion is often not the best option. However, they feel it is an individual's right to decide for herself.
 
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feral said:
As far as being vocal, many of the people who stand for pro-choice actually are not in favour of abortion. Most would not choose to have an abortion themselves and understand that abortion is often not the best option. However, they feel it is an individual's right to decide for herself.

Agreed.

Very well said!
 
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AliveInChrist said:
Abortion is the cruelest thing to do to a child :cry:. That site brought tears to my eyes. How could anyone be so apathetic about human LIFE:sigh:?
I disagree. I agree that abortion is over-used in this country, people consider it a second option rather than a last resort. But I believe it has its place, when a pregnancy that may prove fatal to the mother, child, or both occurs. Yes I know what a C-section is, but thats not always possible. In cases of rape also, I think it would be much happier for the people involved, even the child. Think about it, your the child of rape, and your mother cant hold you in her arms or even look at you for a few minnutes without having a panic attack or crying. You grow up neglected because of how you were concieved.

I also disagree with your statement that it is the cruelest thing that can be done to a child. Talk to a child after they've been beaten by a drunken parent, or better yet, molested or raped by someone they trusted. THAT is the most horrid thing you will ever see, even if you live a thousand years, you wont see anything more horrid than the look in thier eyes. Rape is terrible enough, inflicting massive mental dammage on a person. But a child doesnt have the coping ability that most others do. Immagine yourself being a child and having your innocence ripped away so harshly and quickly by someone that you trusted. Abortion pales in comparison.
 
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I also disagree with your statement that it is the cruelest thing that can be done to a child. Talk to a child after they've been beaten by a drunken parent, or better yet, molested or raped by someone they trusted. THAT is the most horrid thing you will ever see, even if you live a thousand years, you wont see anything more horrid than the look in thier eyes. Rape is terrible enough, inflicting massive mental dammage on a person. But a child doesnt have the coping ability that most others do. Immagine yourself being a child and having your innocence ripped away so harshly and quickly by someone that you trusted. Abortion pales in comparison.

I'd rather be raped than dead. Wouldn't you?
 
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Nope. You die once, but rape lives on in your mind. Immagine hell, and then play it through your mind every minnute of every day for the rest of your life. Thats what rape is. It makes hell a reality. If I ever have to chose between being raped and being shot, gimmie the gun and Ill do it myself.

Its a horrific experience that compares to no other on earth. I sincerely hope you never understand what Im talking about
 
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AliveInChrist said:
Abortion is the cruelest thing to do to a child :cry:. That site brought tears to my eyes. How could anyone be so apathetic about human LIFE:sigh:?


Yea in sweden they even encourage people to have abortion i think, my grand mother was old when she got my father so the evil doctor, asked her to do a abortion but she refused. I also ahve had a friend which was young when they got pregnent (they as marrige but 18 19) and the nurse asked them to do a abortion.
 
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Thor11 said:
Abortion is NOT murder. The fetus is a parasite, part of a woman's body. She may do with her body as she pleases. If you don't like abortion then don't get one. But let those who want one get one without pushing your beliefs on them as you usually try to do.
A rather direct way of stating a good idea. These "crusaders" want to save all the little innocent babies being slaughtered wholesale by these evil abortion doctors and the wicked parents.

My favorite question to ask an anti-abortionist is this. If your wife (or I substitute your wife for you if its a woman) got pregnant, you were waiting during a checkup, and the doctor came out and said. "If your wife has this child, she will not survive. And chances are very good that the child will die as well. We cant do a C-section because we're not entirely certain how the baby is positioned inside her and we dont want to accidentally damage ither your wife (You) or the baby. The best option would be to have an abortion." What would you do?
 
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AliveInChrist said:
I'd rather be raped than dead. Wouldn't you?

No. I was raped twice. I wished I was dead both times. Death means an end. Being raped is like dying every day in your mind. Only years of therapy and a loving family and fiance have helped me finally cope. I'd watch the flip remarks about things you apparently have no knowledge of.
 
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