Abiogenesis is a Lie

AV1611VET · Jul 14, 2012

Abiogenesis = a_biogenesis = not_from life.

Abiogenesis is a descriptive term that says that life did not arise from life ... nothing more, nothing less.

Asking someone where life came from and he answering, "Abiogenesis", is like asking, "Who parked this car here?", and someone answering, "Not John."

Since Adam & Eve came from God, and since God is Life, we believe in biogenesis, not abiogenesis.

TerranceL · Jul 14, 2012

Ah, so.. magic man done it.

AV1611VET · Jul 14, 2012

TerranceL said:
Ah, so.. magic man done it.

If that's your conception of the antithesis of abiogenesis, then it's no wonder abiogenesis flourishes.

Jamin4422 · Jul 14, 2012

AV1611VET said:
Abiogenesis is a descriptive term that says that life did not arise from life ... nothing more, nothing less.

Science makes lots and lots and lots of claims. To the point with string theory they almost say anything and everything you can imagine is true. So it really does not matter unless they can prove it under controled situations. They spent huge amounts of money looking for the Higgs bosom particle. So unless they can offer up some proof then it is another hypothesis and the vast majority of hypothesis turn out to be duds. Even Hawking was willing to bet $100 that the Higgs bosom particle hypothesis was a dud. Edison was wrong over 10,000 times before he finally got it right. Edison learned a lot along the way, so it was all far from a waste of time. Lots of people tried to fly but only the Right Brothers came up with the right formula. No one else could get the math right and without the right math you ain't gonna fly. So you can believe all you want to believe but it ain't gonna happen until you get it right. When it comes to Abiogenesis they don't got it right or they would get it to work.

RickG · Jul 14, 2012

AV1611VET said:
Abiogenesis = a_biogenesis = not_from life.

Abiogenesis is a descriptive term that says that life did not arise from life ... nothing more, nothing less.

Asking someone where life came from and he answering, "Abiogenesis", is like asking, "Who parked this car here?", and someone answering, "Not John."

Since Adam & Eve came from God, and since God is Life, we believe in biogenesis, not abiogenesis.

Genesis 2:19 And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

Sounds like abiogenesis to me.

/thread

PopcornAmy · Jul 14, 2012

AV1611VET said:
If that's your conception of the antithesis of abiogenesis, then it's no wonder abiogenesis flourishes.

Hehehe

dysert · Jul 14, 2012

RickG said:
Genesis 2:19 And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

Sounds like abiogenesis to me.

/thread

Gen. 2:7
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

Seems reasonable that if God would enliven man, He'd do so for the other creatures as well.

Life does not come from non-life.

RickG · Jul 14, 2012

Jamin4422 said:
Science makes lots and lots and lots of claims. To the point with string theory they almost say anything and everything you can imagine is true.

You mean claims like it has actually been observed?

Dark matter bridge spans galaxy clusters - TODAY Tech - TODAY.com

Dark matter space superstructures observed for first time — RT

Source: Jörg Dietrich, University of Michigan/University Observatory Munich.

A July 2012 study of the galaxy clusters Abell 222 and Abell 223 found they are connected by a dark matter filament, shown here. The blue shading and the yellow contours indicate the density of matter. The image on the sky is about twice as big as the full moon.

RickG · Jul 14, 2012

dysert said:
Gen. 2:7
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

Seems reasonable that if God would enliven man, He'd do so for the other creatures as well.

Life does not come from non-life.

What part of Genesis 2:19 do you not understand as well as your own reference Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground...

Dust from the ground is non life.

dysert · Jul 14, 2012

RickG said:
What part of Genesis 2:19 do you not understand as well as your own reference Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground...

Dust from the ground is non life.

I think I understand the verses ok. And I agree that dust is non-life. The point that Gen. 2:7 makes is that while man was *formed* from the dust, he didn't become a living being until God breathed into him the breath of life.

Jamin4422 · Jul 14, 2012

RickG said:
You mean claims like it has actually been observed?

In what universe is string theory accepted as fact?

AV1611VET · Jul 14, 2012

RickG said:
Genesis 2:19 And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

Sounds like abiogenesis to me.

/thread

Nice try, Rick, but according to Wikipedia:

Abiogenesis or biopoiesis is the study of how biological life could arise from inorganic matter through natural processes.

AV1611VET · Jul 14, 2012

RickG said:
Dust from the ground is non life.

Same for this, I take it?

Genesis 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

RickG · Jul 14, 2012

dysert said:
I think I understand the verses ok. And I agree that dust is non-life. The point that Gen. 2:7 makes is that while man was *formed* from the dust, he didn't become a living being until God breathed into him the breath of life.

Yes, life from non life is what Genesis 2 states.

RickG · Jul 14, 2012

AV1611VET said:
Same for this, I take it?

Genesis 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

Water is not life. No matter how you look at it, it is life from non life.

How many ribs does a man have? How many ribs does a woman have?

AV1611VET · Jul 14, 2012

RickG said:
Yes, life from non life is what Genesis 2 states.

No.

AV1611VET · Jul 14, 2012

RickG said:
Water is not life. No matter how you look at it, it is life from non life.

No ... not even close.

Where did the angels get their lives?

RickG said:
How many ribs does a man have? How many ribs does a woman have?

What's this have to do with anything?

RickG · Jul 14, 2012

Jamin4422 said:
In what universe is string theory accepted as fact?

I gather you don't even know what string theory describes.

AV1611VET · Jul 14, 2012

Let me point out that "abiogenesis" specifies "not from life."

Does a cake come from a baker?

Stop looking at the ingredients and look at the Chef.

AV1611VET · Jul 14, 2012

RickG said:
I gather you don't even know what string theory describes.

Rick, do you mind moving your red herring to another bus? thank you.

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