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<blockquote data-quote="ecco" data-source="post: 68863913" data-attributes="member: 380376"><p>ecco:</p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>I wasn't asking what you didn't think.</em></p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, I have. And when I asked what you think, you don't respond with what you think. You make a comment and then stated that the comment is <strong>not</strong> what you think. Let's review...</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">I had asked what causes the "determining".</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">In post # 456 you replied (my red emphasis): </p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>"The determining can be through physical necessity, <span style="color: #ff0000">but I see no reason to think so.</span>"</em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em></em></p> </p></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">In other words, your response was what you <strong>didn't</strong> think. So I responded: </p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>"I wasn't asking what you didn't think."</em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> </p> </p><p>ecco said: <a href="http://www.christianforums.com/goto/post?id=68861564#post-68861564" target="_blank">↑</a></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>if Determinism is real, what causes the Determinizing?</em></p> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are not a determinist? Then why did you post...</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>379 Science typically presupposes determinism. </em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>381 I'm not limiting myself to theism, but also materialistic (non-theistic) determinism</em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>The scientific method assumes determinism</em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>437 Determinism can be both atheistic and theistic.</em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>438 Physical and biological determinism does.</em></li> </ul><p></p><p>Strange. You were a determinist until I asked "<em>if Determinism is real, what causes the Determinizing?". </em>Then you state: <em>Fruitless question; I don't care to answer it. I'm not a determinist. </em>Hmmm. Sounds like a last minute copout. Can't answer the question, deny the subject ever came up. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We haven't, except possibly in your own mind where you cannot decide whether or not you support determinism.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ecco, post: 68863913, member: 380376"] ecco: [INDENT][INDENT][I]I wasn't asking what you didn't think.[/I][/INDENT][/INDENT] Yes, I have. And when I asked what you think, you don't respond with what you think. You make a comment and then stated that the comment is [B]not[/B] what you think. Let's review... [INDENT]I had asked what causes the "determining". In post # 456 you replied (my red emphasis): [INDENT][INDENT][I]"The determining can be through physical necessity,[U] [/U][COLOR=#ff0000]but I see no reason to think so.[/COLOR]" [/I][/INDENT][/INDENT] In other words, your response was what you [B]didn't[/B] think. So I responded: [INDENT][INDENT][I]"I wasn't asking what you didn't think."[/I] [/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] ecco said: [URL='http://www.christianforums.com/goto/post?id=68861564#post-68861564']↑[/URL] [INDENT][INDENT][I]if Determinism is real, what causes the Determinizing?[/I][/INDENT][/INDENT] You are not a determinist? Then why did you post... [LIST] [*][I]379 Science typically presupposes determinism. [/I] [*][I]381 I'm not limiting myself to theism, but also materialistic (non-theistic) determinism[/I] [*][I]The scientific method assumes determinism[/I] [*][I]437 Determinism can be both atheistic and theistic.[/I] [*][I]438 Physical and biological determinism does.[/I] [/LIST] Strange. You were a determinist until I asked "[I]if Determinism is real, what causes the Determinizing?". [/I]Then you state: [I]Fruitless question; I don't care to answer it. I'm not a determinist. [/I]Hmmm. Sounds like a last minute copout. Can't answer the question, deny the subject ever came up. We haven't, except possibly in your own mind where you cannot decide whether or not you support determinism. [/QUOTE]
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