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<blockquote data-quote="Near" data-source="post: 68863175" data-attributes="member: 320468"><p>Then the discussion is meaningless. You have made many assertions about what you think.</p><p></p><p></p><p> You might as well have said, "nuh uh". You said that in response to my claim that biological and physical determinism is what guides your choices. When it comes down to it, you're not on the side of science. I'm actually supporting a materialist view here. Ironic. What reason do you have to think nothing predetermines your choices?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Fruitless question; I don't care to answer it. I'm not a determinist. If anything, you're supporting some of the views I actually support. For example, the view that you carry, that people are not mere bundles of thoughts carrying no person-hood through time.</p><p>I also provided three options. But since we've ruled out random chance...</p><p></p><p>1) physical necessity</p><p>2) a causal agent which transcends the universe</p><p> </p><p>Either view is consistent with the idea of determinism.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Do your own research. I suggest you take an intro to philosophy class.</p><p></p><p></p><p>My point was that your choices are determined. If you're a materialist, you have every reason to agree with me. You lack libertarian free-will.</p><p>Mind-brain identity means that you are a brain, the mind is the same as the brain. It's all physical.</p><p>Unless you dare to say, the mind is different from the brain?</p><p><strong>If so, do you believe the mind is immaterial?</strong></p><p>This deals with whether your choices are predetermined or not*</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Near, post: 68863175, member: 320468"] Then the discussion is meaningless. You have made many assertions about what you think. You might as well have said, "nuh uh". You said that in response to my claim that biological and physical determinism is what guides your choices. When it comes down to it, you're not on the side of science. I'm actually supporting a materialist view here. Ironic. What reason do you have to think nothing predetermines your choices? Fruitless question; I don't care to answer it. I'm not a determinist. If anything, you're supporting some of the views I actually support. For example, the view that you carry, that people are not mere bundles of thoughts carrying no person-hood through time. I also provided three options. But since we've ruled out random chance... 1) physical necessity 2) a causal agent which transcends the universe Either view is consistent with the idea of determinism. Do your own research. I suggest you take an intro to philosophy class. My point was that your choices are determined. If you're a materialist, you have every reason to agree with me. You lack libertarian free-will. Mind-brain identity means that you are a brain, the mind is the same as the brain. It's all physical. Unless you dare to say, the mind is different from the brain? [B]If so, do you believe the mind is immaterial?[/B] This deals with whether your choices are predetermined or not* [/QUOTE]
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