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Does not follow - if we are familiar with their written commentary on the subject, why would listening to them say it out loud have a different impact?Did you listen to the video? If not you really can't comment on the knowledge or accuracy of these three scientists.
Berlinski is not a scientist, and a computer scientist has no business discussing evolution unless he has experience in the field, which he does not.Would you care to comment on what the other two scientists said in this video?
You would also think that, as a Christian, Meyer would not have wanted to be referred to in such a dishonest way.(Meyer also gets referred to as "the biologist" of the discussion. However, he's not a biologist. You'd think the participants would know that.)
You keep saying "scientists."LOL, these three scientists have very different reasoning and don't always agree with Meyer's. Meyer's and his reasoning is not the main focus of the discussion. He doesn't get any more time than the other scientists.
If you cannot explain them, then it is likely that you didn't understand them.I already told you there a three different arguments and that I would probably make a mess out of them if I tried to explain...
I do remember Buckley. Very erudite, but he would often argue in bad faith just to win a point. I found that disappointing.And what is your background such that your assessment of their banter has merit?
I have read many essays by Meyer and a few chapters of one of his books - I found his science dismal and his prose average. Berlinski is a buffoon who clearly has little knowledge of evolutionary biology. I saw a video of him giving his usual spiel followed by a Q&A - when asked a question regarding his evolution claims, he pulled a William F. Buckley - if you remember him, you may remember that when confronted with something he did not want to answer, he just vomited up a string of polysyllabic words to confuse people, topped it off with that condescending cockeyed grin of his, and never actually answered the question.
Imagine....
I went to the PBSW website and entered the name Meyer into the search engine and got no matching results.Does that mean that an intelligent scientist in another field needs to get another degree in order to understand the biology?
"Meyer graduated from Whitworth College in Spokane, Washington, in 1981 with a degree in physics and earth science. He later became a geophysicist with Atlantic Richfield Company (ARCO) in Dallas, Texas. From 1981 to 1985, he worked for ARCO in digital signal processing and seismic survey interpretation. In 1986 as a Rotary International Scholar, he began his training in the history and philosophy of science at Cambridge University, earning an M.Phil. in 1987 and a Ph.D. in 1991. His doctoral thesis was titled “Of Clues and Causes: A Methodological Interpretation of Origin-of-Life Research.”
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Prior to the publication of Signature in the Cell and Darwin’s Doubt, the writing for which Meyer was best known was an August 2004 review essay in the Smithsonian Institution-affiliated peer-reviewed biology journal Proceedings of the Biological Society of Washington. The article laid out the evidential case for intelligent design, presenting it as the best explanation for the origin of the biological information necessary to produce the new forms of animal life that arose abruptly during the Cambrian explosion.
Because the article was the first peer-reviewed publication arguing for intelligent design in a technical journal, it proved extremely controversial."
Stephen C. Meyer
EDIT: Added quotation marks. Sorry, I usually italicize all quotes.
How much would you pay to listen in on a conversation among computer scientist David Gelernter, philosopher of science Stephen Meyer, and mathematician David Berlinski, hosted by Peter Robinson from Stanford’s Hoover Institution?
Anyone else watch the video yet?
I note how none of them are biologists.
Here is an actual biologist pointing out a few of the many factual inaccuracies...
David Gelernter is Wrong About Ditching Darwin - Quillette
as evolution. we cant realy falsify it. on the other hand we do have evidence for design, as you can see in my signature link.
as evolution. we cant realy falsify it. on the other hand we do have evidence for design, as you can see in my signature link.
how? do you agree with dawkins that even a single out of place fossil will falsify evolution for instance?
For some definition of "out of place" fossil, yes. But most certainly not your contrived and sophistical definition of "out of place" fossil, as has been explained to you many times.how? do you agree with dawkins that even a single out of place fossil will falsify evolution for instance?
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