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Hi there!Bartimeus said:Amen, Serapha. I had prayed the sinners prayer, too. But, just last night, I asked for the in-filling of the Holy Spirit, the baptism of the /Spirit, and it actually felt like I thought my original conversion was going to feel like.
There are no words to describe it, accept to say you do feel reborn.
then let go of the rope.you know what answer becomes more and more plausible to me? that i've been dreaming. that this idea of a God who cares about me... it's a dream, it's a fairy tale. that i've been getting calloused knees for an echo off the ceiling. that starts sounding more and more like a legitimate answer every time I hear another person tell me that i've just got to "say the sinners prayer, and really mean it, and live a life for him"
i'm getting to the end of my rope.
but'n'ben said:I've never had God invite me out to dinner either, but my relationship with him is far deeper than that I have with people I've known for years.
The relationship with God is based on absolute truth. you can hide nothign from Him, and you must be honest with Him and yourself. He is the only one I turn to when I need help. I keep things bottled up. He is the only one who knows what I need and what I'm feeling before I realise it myself. My relationship with god is much more than I can ever have with any human because he knows more about me that i do.
I know this is a long, poorly formatted answer, but why be humble. Why have a sense of humility?toecutter said:why should I humble myself, when I spent literally years that way, and nothing came of it?
my expectation that God should communicate with me on some kind of recognizable plane is too high? man, God must really not want to strain himself.
Okay, well, you also seem angry at God, too. Are you expecting Him to break through that anger and prove you wrong? I doubt it works that way. You have to let go of any anger you may (or may not) have. I say it that way in case I misjudged and you aren't angry at God.toecutter said:if i've got a disrespect, it's because he's never shown me any reason to respect him.
toecutter said:look, I'm angry. i'm dissapointed. I feel let down. I'm sorry if I should just shove all those aside and give God the benefit of the doubt, but to be honest, i'm not sure he deserves it. In all my years of doing that (giving him the benefit of the doubt), he never showed up. so why should he now?
Hi,klewlis said:Seriously, all your years? You're 17. You said that you sought God for 6.
Considering all that he has done for you, 1000 years of service is not enough. For you he suffered agony and death. For you he tore a rift in the Trinity itself, suffering eternal pain so that you can have eternal joy. He has held every breath in his hand from day 1 and if it weren't for his faithfulness you would not be alive today, let alone have the capacity to ask these kinds of questions. He has preserved and protected you, and here you are saying that he doesn't deserve your respect, simply because he doesn't speak to you in the way which you demand.
You're talking about the King of the universe as though he is your inferior and must bow to your whims. Is he your servant, that he must "show up" when you ask? Can *you* create a star, raise the dead, or change a heart?
And yet when we humble ourselves before Him and repent of our sins, he lifts us up, cleanses us, restores us, and makes us his children! What right have we to complain of anything?
It is true that sometimes we do struggle and fight with God, as did many in the Bible (David, most famously). Nevertheless, we eventually have to run back to him in the realization that he is still in control and has our best interests at heart. He knows what he's doing, and he loves us infinitely. We have to believe that even when we can't feel him or hear him or see him. And we have to keep pressing on, no matter how long it takes. Maybe God will NEVER reveal himself to you in the way that you desire... he is still worthy of all of your worship and service. He will still reward your faithfulness to him, and he will still continue to be faithful to you, even though you can't see it.
Being angry and disappointed at God are very valid, very human emotions. Allow yourself to feel these things, and tell Him. God, I'm ticked. And tell Him why. God I'm hurt, I'm disappointed, and tell Him why. Be honest. Look at the psalms, David was not always pleased with his lot in life and he told God exactly how he felt about it.toecutter said:look, I'm angry. i'm dissapointed. I feel let down. I'm sorry if I should just shove all those aside and give God the benefit of the doubt, but to be honest, i'm not sure he deserves it. In all my years of doing that (giving him the benefit of the doubt), he never showed up. so why should he now?
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