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A question of ERVs
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<blockquote data-quote="tas8831" data-source="post: 73483104" data-attributes="member: 397968"><p>Wow...</p><p></p><p>All those decades of study (to include a whopping 5 years studying the art of brainwashing) and you still are lost in the woods...</p><p></p><p>OK.... </p><p></p><p></p><p>Ummm....</p><p></p><p>OK - let's see.</p><p></p><p>From the abstract of the Yohn paper:</p><p></p><p>"We unambiguously map 287 retroviral integration sites and determine that approximately <strong>95.8% of the insertions occur at non-orthologous regions between closely related species.</strong> Phylogenetic analysis of the endogenous retrovirus reveals that the gorilla and chimpanzee elements share a monophyletic origin with a subset of the Old World monkey retroviral elements, but that the average sequence divergence exceeds neutral expectation for a strictly nuclear inherited DNA molecule. Within the chimpanzee, there is a significant integration bias against genes, with only 14 of these insertions mapping within intronic regions. Six out of ten of these genes, for which there are expression data, show significant differences in transcript expression between human and chimpanzee. <strong>Our data are consistent with a retroviral infection that bombarded the genomes of chimpanzees and gorillas independently and concurrently, 3–4 million years ago. </strong>We speculate on the potential impact of such recent events on the evolution of humans and great apes."</p><p></p><p>And the Barbulescu paper:</p><p></p><p>"They also show that HERV-K replicated as a virus and reinfected the germline of the common ancestor of the four modern species during the period of time when the lineages were separating and demonstrate the utility of using HERV-K to trace human evolution."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Will you never learn that 1. getting ideas for forum posts from YEC websites is a bad idea and 2. argument via Googling key words and looking for quotes while ignoring context makes you look silly? </p><p></p><p>Walls of text cannot hide your errors.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tas8831, post: 73483104, member: 397968"] Wow... All those decades of study (to include a whopping 5 years studying the art of brainwashing) and you still are lost in the woods... OK.... Ummm.... OK - let's see. From the abstract of the Yohn paper: "We unambiguously map 287 retroviral integration sites and determine that approximately [B]95.8% of the insertions occur at non-orthologous regions between closely related species.[/B] Phylogenetic analysis of the endogenous retrovirus reveals that the gorilla and chimpanzee elements share a monophyletic origin with a subset of the Old World monkey retroviral elements, but that the average sequence divergence exceeds neutral expectation for a strictly nuclear inherited DNA molecule. Within the chimpanzee, there is a significant integration bias against genes, with only 14 of these insertions mapping within intronic regions. Six out of ten of these genes, for which there are expression data, show significant differences in transcript expression between human and chimpanzee. [B]Our data are consistent with a retroviral infection that bombarded the genomes of chimpanzees and gorillas independently and concurrently, 3–4 million years ago. [/B]We speculate on the potential impact of such recent events on the evolution of humans and great apes." And the Barbulescu paper: "They also show that HERV-K replicated as a virus and reinfected the germline of the common ancestor of the four modern species during the period of time when the lineages were separating and demonstrate the utility of using HERV-K to trace human evolution." Will you never learn that 1. getting ideas for forum posts from YEC websites is a bad idea and 2. argument via Googling key words and looking for quotes while ignoring context makes you look silly? Walls of text cannot hide your errors. [/QUOTE]
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