A question I don't think creationists will answer.

FuegoPentecostes · Jun 9, 2014

I'm 17 years old, Pentecostal, and I go to church by myself and believe in creationism and all other facts the Bible shows me due to the pure grace of the living God who through His Holy Spirit has revealed me these things.

No one taught me about creationism, I didn't follow mommy and daddy to church, I am a Bible-believing Christian because I chose to be.

Haha to those atheists that think all Christians believe what they do due to their parents. Can we stop the ignorance please?

stevevw · Jun 9, 2014

The other side of the coin is if you state that Christians got their beliefs from their parents like its some set back then what about all the other things they say we get from our parents. Surveys show that kids are more likely to get into trouble from parents who have also been in trouble. The highest stats for problems like drugs, crime with the younger generation comes from the parents.

biggles53 · Jun 10, 2014

FuegoPentecostes said:
I'm 17 years old, Pentecostal, and I go to church by myself and believe in creationism and all other facts the Bible shows me due to the pure grace of the living God who through His Holy Spirit has revealed me these things.

No one taught me about creationism, I didn't follow mommy and daddy to church, I am a Bible-believing Christian because I chose to be.

Haha to those atheists that think all Christians believe what they do due to their parents. Can we stop the ignorance please?

Not all.....just the vast, vast majority...

If this is not the case, then please explain why the various religions of the world are not evenly spread around the globe, but are very much regional in nature...? Please explain why the majority of creationists are found within specific areas of the US...?

It is unquestionably a fact that people will tend to model their religious beliefs around that of their family/community....

Only the ignorant would fail to observe the obvious....

biggles53 · Jun 10, 2014

stevevw said:
The other side of the coin is if you state that Christians got their beliefs from their parents like its some set back then what about all the other things they say we get from our parents. Surveys show that kids are more likely to get into trouble from parents who have also been in trouble. The highest stats for problems like drugs, crime with the younger generation comes from the parents.

It's not that it's necessarily a "set back", but it does give the lie to one religion or another possessing the "truth"....people follow a certain religion, not because they have stood back before establishing an allegiance and objectively assessing the accuracy of each.....no, they follow the religion of their fellows and then declare their religion to be 'true'...

stevevw · Jun 10, 2014

biggles53 said:
It's not that it's necessarily a "set back", but it does give the lie to one religion or another possessing the "truth"....people follow a certain religion, not because they have stood back before establishing an allegiance and objectively assessing the accuracy of each.....no, they follow the religion of their fellows and then declare their religion to be 'true'...

Thats the same for many things such as politics and sports. Its only natural to a point that a kid sees a particular political party or sports team followed in the house especially if its a young boy following his dad. But eventually you would hope that they grow up and work it out for themselves.

In fact I think when it comes to religion and maybe politics that there can be a rebellion against the parents beliefs. The typical situation is the preachers kid who gets into trouble because they dont want to follow their dads religion. Even with Hindu now where there are things like arranged marriages the kids are finding their own way and not following the families practices.

biggles53 · Jun 10, 2014

stevevw said:
Thats the same for many things such as politics and sports. Its only natural to a point that a kid sees a particular political party or sports team followed in the house especially if its a young boy following his dad. But eventually you would hope that they grow up and work it out for themselves.

In fact I think when it comes to religion and maybe politics that there can be a rebellion against the parents beliefs. The typical situation is the preachers kid who gets into trouble because they dont want to follow their dads religion. Even with Hindu now where there are things like arranged marriages the kids are finding their own way and not following the families practices.

There are two things wrong with that argument....it's not borne out by the facts....and.....it's not borne out by the facts...!

The simple truth is that people follow the religions they were introduced to, usually family. And, if your argument had merit, we should see a wide pattern of differing religions between father and son and then grandson...

We don't.......by and large, people remain with the affiliation of their youth....what you propose is anything but "typical"....it is the exception....

Snake75 · Jun 10, 2014

AV1611VET said:
The OP is still here ... and still quite active.

No he's not....12th May 2009 08:08 AM

stevevw · Jun 10, 2014

biggles53 said:
There are two things wrong with that argument....it's not borne out by the facts....and.....it's not borne out by the facts...!

The simple truth is that people follow the religions they were introduced to, usually family. And, if your argument had merit, we should see a wide pattern of differing religions between father and son and then grandson...

We don't.......by and large, people remain with the affiliation of their youth....what you propose is anything but "typical"....it is the exception....

You actually focused on the second part of what I was saying. I did agree that things like religion is passed down from parents just like politics and other beliefs. Its in the house and talked about. I ended up following my dads footy team but I guess i learn to like them for my own reasons as well as I got older. I think as part of a growing person you would hope that you can question things and then form your own views about things. But like certain character traits and ways of doing things as child does take on their parents ways a lot. But I was mainly referring to Hindu beliefs where the family have moved to western countries. The young people are not following all their parents beliefs especially things like arranged marriages and going out drinking and socializing which is frowned upon by the older generations.

I read an interesting article though that all children to an extent have an inbuilt supernatural view of the world when they start out. They dont think in terms of dying or that Dad and mum are infallible. Everything is like an adventure and their world is tuned for superheroes and supernatural thinking. In some ways its tuned to be open to a belief in a God. They are taking on that sort of thinking anyway without it being put on them. Its only as they get older that they begin to realize that we do eventually die and their parents are not super heroes. But much of what children do take on isn't totally brainwashing from their parents. For example even if the parents continually tried to convince their kids that say vegetables are good for you many just wont agree. So when they do take on something there is a certain belief within them anyway that will allow them to take it on.
Justin L Barrett: Do children believe because they're told to by adults? The evidence suggests otherwise | Comment is free | theguardian.com

selfinflikted · Jun 10, 2014

Snake75 said:
No he's not....12th May 2009 08:08 AM

He is, actually. He just uses different screen names ("sock puppets") often, perhaps daily.

Snake75 · Jun 10, 2014

selfinflikted said:
He is, actually. He just uses different screen names ("sock puppets") often, perhaps daily.

But, his accounts always get banned. So, it's not really an active poster. This is just AV trolling.

AV1611VET · Jun 10, 2014

Snake75 said:
No he's not....12th May 2009 08:08 AM

Yes, he is.

In fact, he just posted a few minutes ago.

AV1611VET · Jun 10, 2014

selfinflikted said:
He is, actually. He just uses different screen names ("sock puppets") often, perhaps daily.

We're talking about Nathan Poe, not Consol.

Nathan posts here regularly ... and did so a few minutes ago.

ETA: Oops! Nevermind! My bad.

AV1611VET · Jun 10, 2014

Snake75 said:
This is just AV trolling.

This doesn't even deserve a response.

selfinflikted · Jun 10, 2014

AV1611VET said:
This doesn't even deserve a response.

No, it doesn't. And yes, we were talking about Consol.

AV1611VET · Jun 10, 2014

selfinflikted said:
No, it doesn't. And yes, we were talking about Consol.

Sorry about that.

I was thinking of another thread!

Snake75 · Jun 10, 2014

AV1611VET said:
Yes, he is.

In fact, he just posted a few minutes ago.

You were talking about the wrong person. Console hasn't posted since the date that I gave. So, this is just an attempt at trolling.

selfinflikted · Jun 10, 2014

Snake75 said:
You were talking about the wrong person. Console hasn't posted since the date that I gave. So, this is just an attempt at trolling.

Read these words carefully:

Console. Is. Still. Posting. Here. Under. A. Different. Handle.

AV1611VET · Jun 10, 2014

Snake75 said:
You were talking about the wrong person. Console hasn't posted since the date that I gave. So, this is just an attempt at trolling.

Are you Beamishboy, that used to post here?

Snake75 · Jun 10, 2014

selfinflikted said:
Read these words carefully:

Console. Is. Still. Posting. Here. Under. A. Different. Handle.

This thread is 6 years old... Tell me how this is not trolling.

AV1611VET said:
Are you Beamishboy, that used to post here?

No? I have no idea who that is.

AV1611VET · Jun 10, 2014

Snake75 said:
Tell me how this is not trolling.

If you're hurting so bad to accuse me of something, accuse me of necromancing a thread -- not trolling.

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