I wanna make a joke about both marijuana and redheads now, but I don't want my post removed so I'll refrain
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I wanna make a joke about both marijuana and redheads now, but I don't want my post removed so I'll refrainI can never get past the "burning bush" part without a giggle. Honestly, who follows the words of a bush? How does Moses decide he's speaking to a god and not a rather intelligent and somewhat telepathic bush? (Why wouldn't a bush respond, "I AM"? What else would it say? "I'm Fred...the bush...mind putting me out?")
Bushes don't need names.
I wanna make a joke about both marijuana and redheads now, but I don't want my post removed so I'll refrain
I wonder what the Hebrew for "dude" was ?We all thought it at least once. A squinty-eyed Moses stumbling through a cloud of smoke, gets to the bush rather baked out. Bush says, "Hey Moses, I'm god.". Moses says, "Yea...that's the ticket! I should write this down..."
No other gods...especially that stupid yellow cow Jake has us all following.
Hey, Castaneda sold a LOT of copies of his stuff tooWell seriously....what would you be thinking if it read, "Moses came upon the cactus and ate a portion thereof, roughly 30mins later, god picked up Moses and took him on a personal tour of heaven and hell for about 4-5 days."
Here's something that might unsettle you. Neuroscience has long known that the self, what we perceive as a unified locus of consciousness resting behind the eyes looking out into the world, is an illusion. Read Bruce Hood's The Illusion of the Self.
I don't see consciousness as anything different from the ability to think...so sure, any thinking involves consciousness.
What I mean is, describe yourself...then I'll tell you how you're wrong, then we can argue over who is more correct. We probably can't get a real lock on it. No one will ever know you, including yourself. And does that self exist past when we spoke about it? Did it exist before we brought it up? Did it exist at all?
Or are you just MBC?
Does a digital toaster exhibit consciousness ? At what point does a complex system exhibit "consciousness" ... is it when it can pass the Turing test ?
Aww ... man that was the JAMMMM ! For hip-hop, it was greatness. Songs like OPP started to put old school rap to sleep. Old school stuff like .... Run MBC.Just for reference, I'd call the book, "You down with MBC? Yea, you know me."
TillICollapse knows what I'm talkin bout.
Interesting ... so for the time being, you assume something needs to be more human to be conscious ? Is that fair to say ?I don't know how you test for it... consciousness is still something that no one understands. I doubt a digital toaster is conscious though.
The only reason I think other people are conscious is because I assume they are, because they are like me. A machine that can pass the Turing test is still unlikely to have the same physical make up as us, so we can't necessarily assume such a thing is conscious, rather than simply programmed to act conscious.
Under this definition, I think the concept "self" has no referent, and even less a consistent one. It is the vain attempt to conceptualize stability, permanence in a world in which change is all there is.Maybe it would help if I defined "self" as "who/what you are".
I do not know what you mean by that last sentence, but by my understanding, no "self" exists.I hate philosophy for always showing me this...that every thought I've had has already been had and had better.
So...what do you think? No actual "self" exists? I could be you and you could be me?
I do not know what you mean by that last sentence, but by my understanding, no "self" exists.
A "phenomenal self" is constructed by the brain as needed, temporarily.
I avoid the use of the word 'illusion' (as in the illusion of self), as it implies deception.
Under this definition, I think the concept "self" has no referent, and even less a consistent one. It is the vain attempt to conceptualize stability, permanence in a world in which change is all there is.
We may (and apparently need to) use the term for pragmatic purposes, though.
I guess...what I'm asking here is...is every part of what we recognize as "self" intangible? I'd like to think not...but I'm fairly certain it is.
I dont think the way we change over time negates a self. The self is a sort of project. But in that respect it still IS.
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