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A political 2022 Referendum
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<blockquote data-quote="ThatRobGuy" data-source="post: 76037380" data-attributes="member: 123415"><p>My point wasn't really about the details of their positions, everyone's positions have some self-contradiction in the mix.</p><p></p><p>My point was about the expectation that a person should have to abandon every other political position they have and vote for the other side, otherwise they're somehow complicit in, or were in favor of the capitol insurrection.</p><p></p><p>The example could've been made with a different set of issues, those just happened to be ones I chose at random to illustrate my point.</p><p></p><p>Saying "2022 is a referendum on whether you support democratic fair elections, or if you support insurrectionists and voter fraud lies" is as disingenuous as when republicans try to frame it as "the upcoming elections are a referendum on whether you support law and order, or whether you support looting and property destruction"</p><p></p><p>It'd be unreasonable to expect a democrat (who's pro-choice, pro-environment, in favor of gun control, and pro-LGBT) to have to vote GOP just to prove they're not in support of looting. You'd agree, yes?</p><p></p><p></p><p>The reality is, the majority of republicans were against what happened in the capitol riots, much like most democrats are against the types of property destruction and looting that too place in riots around the country.</p><p></p><p><em>79% of Republicans say it is important that federal law enforcement agencies find and prosecute those responsible for the Jan. 6 riot</em></p><p><em></em></p><p>They may hold views that are self-contradicting on other issues, they may hold views that we think are sort of backwards and outdated on other issues, but the reality is, the majority of republicans didn't support what happened on Jan. 6.</p><p></p><p>I don't think it's necessarily fair to basically try to strong arm them into voting for the other team (that opposes them on the majority of issues) by making it sound like "unless you vote for democrats, that must mean you support the insurrectionists"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ThatRobGuy, post: 76037380, member: 123415"] My point wasn't really about the details of their positions, everyone's positions have some self-contradiction in the mix. My point was about the expectation that a person should have to abandon every other political position they have and vote for the other side, otherwise they're somehow complicit in, or were in favor of the capitol insurrection. The example could've been made with a different set of issues, those just happened to be ones I chose at random to illustrate my point. Saying "2022 is a referendum on whether you support democratic fair elections, or if you support insurrectionists and voter fraud lies" is as disingenuous as when republicans try to frame it as "the upcoming elections are a referendum on whether you support law and order, or whether you support looting and property destruction" It'd be unreasonable to expect a democrat (who's pro-choice, pro-environment, in favor of gun control, and pro-LGBT) to have to vote GOP just to prove they're not in support of looting. You'd agree, yes? The reality is, the majority of republicans were against what happened in the capitol riots, much like most democrats are against the types of property destruction and looting that too place in riots around the country. [I]79% of Republicans say it is important that federal law enforcement agencies find and prosecute those responsible for the Jan. 6 riot [/I] They may hold views that are self-contradicting on other issues, they may hold views that we think are sort of backwards and outdated on other issues, but the reality is, the majority of republicans didn't support what happened on Jan. 6. I don't think it's necessarily fair to basically try to strong arm them into voting for the other team (that opposes them on the majority of issues) by making it sound like "unless you vote for democrats, that must mean you support the insurrectionists" [/QUOTE]
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