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Only if they conflict with secular law. And sometimes secular law makes allowances even for that (such as the Native American use of peyote).And in the context of that, fine, but even those bylaws are overseen by secular law.
Which means that secular law overrides religious or organizational bylaws.Only if they conflict with secular law. And sometimes secular law makes allowances even for that (such as the Native American use of peyote).
Yes, but people who drink, gossip, or fail to become baptized are breaking a social or religious law. And even then, they don’t take the posts made here or on Reddit that show transgressions, write an expose, publish it in a paper multiple times, and deride and shame the people who do it. In fact, the “it’s a private matter we are dealing with internally” is an often quoted phrase.The secular law doesn't prosecute gossip, but scripture certainly makes clear gossiping is not to be permitted in the congregation. The law does not prohibit alcohol, but many congregations proscribe it. The law does not require baptism, but many congregations do for membership.
If a church leader is breaking civil law, shouldn’t it be reported?Is that similar to a person from Mongolia telling someone from the usa how to govern concerning the law-breakers? Each country has its own laws and governs itself, supposedly at least. (the world government might be much more involved than we know)...
Likewise each church has its own rules, some in line with Scripture, some not.
It means they don't override out of silence. Where a secular law is silent, an organizational law can be in force.Which means that secular law overrides religious or organizational bylaws.
Most the conversation here, I believe, has been about sin by church leaders being made known to the congregation, not being published in the media.Yes, but people who drink, gossip, or fail to become baptized are breaking a social or religious law. And even then, they don’t take the posts made here or on Reddit that show transgressions, write an expose, publish it in a paper multiple times, and deride and shame the people who do it. In fact, the “it’s a private matter we are dealing with internally” is an often quoted phrase.
My opinion is that you are rude. Note that and welcome to my ignore lisr.Your opinion is noted.
You didn’t repeat my own words. I never said anything like “Christians aren't interested in modeling the behaviors of the Righteous, Pure, and Holy. They more exemplify the behaviors of those who are controlled by their original Sinful Nature (that has yet to be cut out by Christ)” when referring to my beliefs or spirituality. That was all you.
My opinion is that you are rude. Note that and welcome to my ignore lisr.
So you believe being rude to someone who is rude is rude, and/or that it is right or wrong to note something hoping to quiet down an error ? Or is it every right or even allowed to not allow poster's sins to remain private/ unknown/ undisclosed? I thought it better not to disclose obvious or hidden sins when it was not time to do so ....
People who grossly misconstrue the remarks of others are especially rude.There's never a shortage of rude people at Christian websites, is there? You've got my support.
People who grossly misconstrue the remarks of others are especially rude.
I think the congregation has the need to know the moral standing of the person presenting God to them They need to know so that they can make their own decisions on continuing their church attendance, or to go elsewhere.I have read two news articles about pastors who have had sins brought to the public eye. Both pastors are were upset that their sins came out, one is suing is because of it. Should a pastor's sin remain private?
Yes, particularly because the Church is instructed about their congregational leaders:I think the congregation has the need to know the moral standing of the person presenting God to them They need to know so that they can make their own decisions on continuing their church attendance, or to go elsewhere.
So you’re not going to be accountable for making judgments about me, then misrepresenting me, my beliefs, and comments by saying you only said what I said after clearly being shown you did not…Rabbit-hole conversations. This stuff just goes on, and on, and on, and on.
So you’re not going to be accountable for making judgments about me, then misrepresenting me, my beliefs, and comments by saying you only said what I said after clearly being shown you did not…
Interesting.
Again, another reason I’m not going to laymen religious peers over the law to settle lawsuits.
LoL, harassing you? Oh brother. You judged me, my faith, and then tried to gaslight me, then you played victim when I pointed it out. LoL, whatever dude. Go ahead and block me. Your loss is absolutely my gain.If you choose to continue to harass me, I will be forced to place you on the Ignore List. Please stop.
If your employer is leaking information to the press about your private life so that you can have two expose hit pieces written about you In the paper, then demands you answer do it publicly (like what happened in the OPs examples) please find a new job.We all sin but we don't all lead churches.
If one chooses to take the responsibility of leading a church, they must also lead by example and be held to the highest standard.
This means admitting when you messed up, in front of the people you lead, God etc and accepting whatever judgment is given as a result.
This would even apply in managerial positions at work, politicians etc.
No different here.
Perks and risks come with leadership.If your employer is leaking information to the press so that you can have two expose hit pieces written about you In the paper, like what happened in the OPs examples, please find a new job.
Well, how astute. Life is hard, so if an employer wants you publicly flogged for what you do in your off hours (even though it’s legal)… Shrug… It’s life.Perks and risks come with leadership.
I think someone once said, "Life is hard. Get a helmet."
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