A new CF, an old vision (2)

probinson · Jul 7, 2007

I think what's happening is we're all envisioning the worst case scenario of what COULD happen.

Why don't we all just wait and see how it works out? We really don't have any idea what Erwin has up his sleeve. He's obviously thought about this for a while now, and I believe that he is doing what he believes is right.

I can not bring myself to believe that menas that Erwin is going to silence us from preaching the gospel.

I have as many questions and concerns as the next guy, but until I see the new set of rules at the very least, I'm going to give Erwin the benefit of the doubt.

PassthePeace1 · Jul 7, 2007

I have read thru most of part 1 of this thread, and some of the second one....but my mind was fuzzing out, and so I don't know if my question has been addressed yet...if so I sorry.

If we are going to be voting for our mods, and rules for that matter.....are some safety measures going to be implemented to make sure someone doesn't form a bunch of sock puppets, and stuff the ballet box....so to speak?

Itznikinotnikki · Jul 7, 2007

ProdicalChristian said:
Afraid of losing your beliefs while sharing or debating?

Im Not!
I believe that when people judge others they don't define them,they define their selfs!!!And that doesn't seem very christan like to me....

ProdicalChristian · Jul 7, 2007

Lisa0315 said:
I am not a Liberal, but I am very, very glad that atheists are going to have free access to the entire site. I spend tons of time in GA and GT and I am going to hang around. I completely embrace the new policy.

Lisa

Same here......

porterross · Jul 7, 2007

Glass*Soul said:
I'm curious. Have any non-Nicene-affirming members said anything in these two threads that has required babysitting or smacked of confrontation? This is really the first test isn't it? How is it working out so far in these nearly 2000 posts in under 24 hours?

It's not those who will state, straight up, that they aren't Christian who are the biggest problem. It's those putting forth their unbiblical, personal doctrines to the others earnestly seeking Christ who will do the damage, commit heresy and lead innocents astray.

ProdicalChristian · Jul 7, 2007

Itznikinotnikki said:
Im Not!
I believe that when people judge others they don't define them,they define their selfs!!!And that doesn't seem very christan like to me....

The old CF was confined to denominational beliefs, now the new CF is confined to being a Christian whether you are right or wrong.

EdmundBlackadderTheThird · Jul 7, 2007

PassthePeace1 said:
I have read thru most of part 1 of this thread, and some of the second one....but my mind was fuzzing out, and so I don't know if my question has been addressed yet...if so I sorry.

If we are going to be voting for our mods, and rules for that matter.....are some safety measures going to be implemented to make sure someone doesn't form a bunch of sock puppets, and stuff the ballet box....so to speak?

It's really not possible to be honest. There are free proxies all over the net so IP checks wouldn't work. IP checks would also deny my wife a vote as we come through with the same IP and yet are two people. The only workable solution is a minimum post limit for voting but you run into a problem of the susbstance of those posts and so on. There is not a real system that can be implemented to insure security of voting. Also straight majority votes are a simple tyranny of the majority and have no place in a community minded environment. This is a problem which Erwin will have to address. There are ways to limit the problem manners which are workable but there is no reason to bring them up while everyone is running scared from the evil scary demons who apparently are going to invade this place and be mean to everyone who is conservative.

Itznikinotnikki · Jul 7, 2007

ProdicalChristian said:
The old CF was confined to denominational beliefs, now the new CF is confined to being a Christian whether you are right or wrong.

And like I said earlier,i'm looking forward to the change.

pdudgeon · Jul 7, 2007

jtbdad said:
Again how will you preach the truth when it becomes against the rules?

the same way you preach a sermon called "Sinners in The Hands of an Angry God"...with love, and honesty, and compassionate tears, and forgiveness.

if you preach it any other way at all your words will be empty, and you will have lost a great opportunity.

No Swansong · Jul 7, 2007

ProdicalChristian said:
The old CF was confined to denominational beliefs, now the new CF is confined to being a Christian whether you are right or wrong.

That's not true at all and it reflects your short time here. Only the Congregational Fora was confined by denominational beliefs. And CF is not confined to Christians now at all.

In the immortal words of Ted Nugent

It's a free for all.

Letalis · Jul 7, 2007

EdmundBlackadderTheThird said:
It's really not possible to be honest. There are free proxies all over the net so IP checks wouldn't work. IP checks would also deny my wife a vote as we come through with the same IP and yet are two people. The only workable solution is a minimum post limit for voting but you run into a problem of the susbstance of those posts and so on. There is not a real system that can be implemented to insure security of voting. Also straight majority votes are a simple tyranny of the majority and have no place in a community minded environment. This is a problem which Erwin will have to address. There are ways to limit the problem manners which are workable but there is no reason to bring them up while everyone is running scared from the evil scary demons who apparently are going to invade this place and be mean to everyone who is conservative.

Perhaps time spent on CF could also be a factor in choosing whose votes will be counted.

Citizen of the Kingdom · Jul 7, 2007

ProdicalChristian said:
The old CF was confined to denominational beliefs, now the new CF is confined to being a Christian whether you are right or wrong.

Did I not also hear that doctrine was out the door? Gospel only? (?)

Goodchild · Jul 7, 2007

ProdicalChristian said:
Why is it Christians are afraid of liberal Christians, unorthodox Christians and athiests? Should Christians be afraid?

I keep seeing a disconnect in this regard. Claims have been made that non-christians cannot be moderators here because they don't have the Holy Spirit guiding them in their decisions, and then the same people might turn around and say they're worried about the idea of electing moderators because it will just be a popularity contest ... yet the majority of those voters will be the self-same christians they think are the only ones capable of making proper decisions led by the Holy Spirit? Does the Holy Spirit make someone capable of honestly determining when another person is misbehaving yet incapable of preventing you from misbehaving yourself? *sigh*

No Swansong · Jul 7, 2007

pdudgeon said:
the same way you preach a sermon called "Sinners in The Hands of an Angry God"...with love, and honesty, and compassionate tears, and forgiveness.

if you preach it any other way at all your words will be empty, and you will have lost a great opportunity.

And when that is not permitted?

ProdicalChristian · Jul 7, 2007

jtbdad said:
That's not true at all and it reflects your short time here. Only the Congregational Fora was confined by denominational beliefs. And CF is not confined to Christians now at all.

In the immortal words of Ted Nugent

It's a free for all.

I disagree. However that is a matter of opinion.

NewToLife · Jul 7, 2007

ProdicalChristian said:
The whiners about them coming into the Christian forums.

Oddly I never saw you in GA, you'll excuse me if I'm not concerned what you say seeing as its jusrt so much well meaning hot air and self righteousness.

ProdicalChristian · Jul 7, 2007

Evangelica said:
Did I not also hear that doctrine was out the door? Gospel only? (?)

Which doctrines do you want to throw out and which doctrines you want to keep?

Not everyone will agree in this area.

Rut · Jul 7, 2007

ProdicalChristian said:
The old CF was confined to denominational beliefs, now the new CF is confined to being a Christian whether you are right or wrong.

How can tell who are christian or not.That are we only know in our heart and of course God Matthew 7:21 - 23, 1 John 3:20 so I agree little with Erwin here

ProdicalChristian · Jul 7, 2007

NewToLife said:
Oddly I never saw you in GA, you'll excuse me if I'm not concerned what you say seeing as its jusrt so much well meaning hot air and self righteousness.

Of course, I rather be invisible. I retired and quit my other name. Starting fresh and not allowing people to know who I am really.

Agree with my words or you don't rather than battling with me. I am putting the Holy Spirit in place. I am just invisible.

SpiritPsalmist · Jul 7, 2007

Where was it suggested that preaching the truth was going to be against the rules? I seriously doubt that part of Erwins dreams for Christian forums is that they don't have the Gospel preached.

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