A new Catholic pope?

[Christy4Christ]

Is anyone aware that there are actually two popes?? One under the vatican and one that has been elected by another sect of the "the Catholic church"??

Go here and take a look...

Second Pope?

What does everyone know about this?

 

[nyj]

Is anyone aware that there are actually two popes??

No, there is one Pope and he resides in Rome. The rest are anti-popes.

PS: There is definitely more than one anti-pope in existance at this time.

PSS: Did you read the process for that guys election? It was done over the phone by three people. Pope indeed.

 

[Michelina]

After 40 years of the Holy See being vacant, the Catholic Church has, on October 24, 1998 elected Pope Pius XIII as the Vicar of Christ on Earth

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This quote from the site explains the whole thing, Christy. The "true catholic" Church cannot be without a Pope, so these Tridentiners had to elect one. Who accepts him? A handful of mixed nuts.

 

[nyj]

Who accepts him? A handful of mixed nuts.

Three nuts to be exact.

 

[Christy4Christ]

I am afraid because I THINK this might be the pope that Mel Gibson has now. He opened a new church that is not in communion with the Vatican. Doesn't that mean that he must have a pope? I know there is no evidence to support that claim but who IS Mel's pope? wouldn't he need to have one?

 

[nyj]

I am afraid because I THINK this might be the pope that Mel Gibson has now.

And what gives you reason to think that?

He opened a new church that is not in communion with the Vatican.

He did? When? Cite please.

Unless you can prove Mel is not Catholic, in the best interest of charity, we would be best off not speculating.

 

[NDIrish]

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This quote from the site explains the whole thing, Christy. The "true catholic" Church cannot be without a Pope, so these Tridentiners had to elect one. Who accepts him? A handful of mixed nuts.

Hey, let's not start asociating those who appreciate the traditional Latin Mass with nuts...one does not equate the other, and vice versa.

 

[kimber1]

i think she's talking about where int he interview it was said that he opened a new church and something about traditionalism? i think...don't quote me

 

[Christy4Christ]

nyj,

Yes Mel did open a church that is not in communion with that Vatican , that is not speculation. You can look that up yourself. I am certainly not bad mouthing Mel Gibson I love him and I am very happy about his movie. I am just wondering if anyone has any information on this.

Thanks,
Christy

 

[nyj]

Yes Mel did open a church that is not in communion with that Vatican , that is not speculation.

If it's not speculation, can you please provide a citation?

 

[Christy4Christ]

I thought it was common knowledge that his church is not in communion with the Vatican?

Let me go check because maybe I did misread..

I'll get back to you in a few.

 

[Benedicta00]

He did not say he opened a Church, he said he had a Church built.

 

[Michelina]

He did not say he opened a Church, he said he had a Church built.

That's the way I remember it, Christy. Mel built a 'church' building. It seemed to me from the interview that Mel is at peace with the Church and the Pope, but perhaps at bit disappointed w/ Bp. Dziewicz (sp?), Pope JP Secretary.

 

[Christy4Christ]

Here is the site that I was reading. Apparently Mel's father and the group they belong to feel the the seat of Peter is empty and has been since the last pope. I wouldn't just make this stuff up I am not a lunatic!


Mel stuff

 

[nyj]

Apparently Mel's father and the group they belong to feel the the seat of Peter is empty and has been since the last pope. I wouldn't just make this stuff up I am not a lunatic!

Mel Gibson is Mel Gibson, and not his father.

Also, the site you linked to is the comments section of someone's blog (web log). It's all hearsay, I don't see any substantiated facts in there at all.

 

[Benedicta00]

Here is the site that I was reading. Apparently Mel's father and the group they belong to feel the the seat of Peter is empty and has been since the last pope. I wouldn't just make this stuff up I am not a lunatic!


Mel stuff

His father but he has not said one way or the other his stand. If you notice many of his comments were not in line with schism thinking. He also was interviewed on EWTN twice and made no mention on the magisteriuim. In or out of it, he is not bringing scandal to the Church, thank goodness. He did say candidly that he is a old school Roman Catholic.

 

[Michelina]

Christy, you're right. There have been a lot of questions about Mel relationship to the Church. This is nothing new. But I thought last night that he seemed to be with the Church.

His father is very extreme, influenced by a group called The Remnant founded by the brother of Wanderer editor Al Matt. His father is 85 and I don't think he is going to go into the subject publicly as he hinted to Diane S last night.

 

[nyj]

He did say candidly that he is a old school Roman Catholic.

And there is nothing wrong with that. During the filming of The Passion, a Catholic priest (not a schismatic, not a sedevacantist, but a bona fide Catholic priest) said Mass daily* for all the people "on location" who wished to attend. Mel Gibson, along with Jim Caviezel (also a Catholic) attended religiously. Why Mel would, if he's not Catholic, attend Mass said by a Catholic priest, eludes me.

*During the filming, Gibson, a devout Catholic, attended Mass every morning because "we had to be squeaky clean just working on this." From Gibson's perspective, this movie is not about Mel Gibson. It's bigger than he is.

 

[Benedicta00]

Another thing I think is worth mentioning is that even if he was a schismatic, Diane did mention that he is oposed to the Vatican but he said he was opposed to Vatican 11 on the matters of the liturgy, is that in any event, he is still Catholic brethren of ours.

 

[Christy4Christ]

I don't know but I swore I read an interview with Mel in which HE said he is no longer in communion with the vatican but I can't find it now!

Now I guess I DO look like a lunatic!