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A Message from Ben Stein-Right on!

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The following was written by Ben Stein and recited by
him on CBS Sunday Morning Commentary.

My confession:



I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish. And it does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful lit up, bejeweled trees Christmas trees. I don't feel threatened. I don't feel discriminated against. That's what they are: Christmas trees.

It doesn't bother me a bit when people say, "Merry Christmas" to me. I don't think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a ghetto. In fact, I kind of like it. It shows that we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of year. It doesn't bother me at all that there is a manger scene on display at a key intersection near my beach house in Malibu. If people want a creche, it's just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred yards away.

I don't like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I don't think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians. I think people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around, period. I have no idea where the concept came from that America is an explicitly atheist country. I can't find it in the Constitution and I don't like it being shoved down my throat.

Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that we should worship Nick and Jessica and we aren't allowed to worship God as we understand Him? I guess that's a sign that I'm getting old, too. But there are a lot of us who are wondering where Nick and Jessica came from and where the America we knew went to.

In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke; it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.

Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?" (regarding Katrina) Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives. And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?"

In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school. The Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.

Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.

Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.

Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says. Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing. Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.

Are you laughing?

Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they will think of you for sending it.

Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us than what God thinks of us.

Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it... no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process, don't sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in. My Best Regards.


Honestly and respectfully,

Ben Stein
 
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Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."



Being made in the image of God, we are the creators of our world. This is free will.
Very much so, this is the type of world that we have created.

Imagine what a world without God would be like. It isn't hard to do. It's getting a lot less like an exercise in imagination all the time.
 
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The Jewish people have fully earned the understanding and respect of all those who are spiritually complete. They, above, all other peoples, have known the worst of what the world can inflict unpon hard-working, intelligent human beings.

For courage and endurance, they have shown themselves to be above all other peoples in the world.

For one of the all-time finest voices and purest good will personnas, Mr. Perry Como has no peer. Jews and Christians were meant to be allies and friends.

Here is just one of the reasons:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO9Y4N1uhEk
 
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:amen::amen::amen::amen::amen:


The Jewish people have fully earned the understanding and respect of all those who are spiritually complete. They, above, all other peoples, have known the worst of what the world can inflict unpon hard-working, intelligent human beings.

For courage and endurance, they have shown themselves to be above all other peoples in the world.

For one of the all-time finest voices and purest good will personnas, Mr. Perry Como has no peer. Jews and Christians were meant to be allies and friends.

Here is just one of the reasons:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO9Y4N1uhEk
 
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I have learned to ignore snopes. It's composed of college kids who don't have time to learn anything but their professors' biases and instead know only how to debunk stuff. Way too negative!

Yep, Ben Stein is super. I'd love to meet him in person.
I like Ben Stein too, but I'll take truth over fabrication, and sweeping generalizations, any day:wave:
 
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Even if snopes is right and the statements of Ben Stein were not composed in the form of a letter, they did not say that anything that was attributed to Ben Stein having said, was untrue. So, he still said all of those things and he is still 100% right and deserves a hearty AMEN and a :thumbsup:!
 
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I have learned to ignore snopes. It's composed of college kids who don't have time to learn anything but their professors' biases and instead know only how to debunk stuff. Way too negative!

They're right about this. Here's a link to the material as published on Ben Stein's own website: http://www.benstein.com/121805xmas.html

Yep, Ben Stein is super. I'd love to meet him in person.

I used to love watching "Win Ben Stein's Money." ^_^
 
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