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A message from Adam to all of humanity?! Does this sound legitimate to you???

Does this message from Adam through Pastor Rick sound genuine to you?

  • I tend to consider this message inspired and made possible by God!

  • I tend to think that this was made up by a creative writer but cannot be genuine.

  • Well, this would help to explain what we do in "heaven."

  • We are forbidden to speak with the dead so this can't be real.

  • I've read that thirty percent of published authors struggle with bi-polar syndrome.

  • I find that this message has helped me to respect my grandfather Adam much more.


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DennisTate

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I personally am wide open to the idea that this two page message given to Pastor Rick Joyner in a visionary dream back in 1995 may well be the real deal!

My opinion of the patriarch Adam has improved greatly since reading this message. I also found it fascinating how the moment of our deaths is really only the beginning of our learning and growth process!!!



 
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Scroll down to chapter IV in The Call, page 72, which is part two of this book to get the context of the message.
The Call Rick Joyner
 
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This "message" sounds contrived to me....

Howdy, Dennis. How have you been doing? I have missed you....

Well today is Yom Kippur. I am used to having ten days of awe before Yom Kippur but this year I had well over a month.

From what I have been reading I really think that this planet is in for a paradigm shift in how we think before 2013 and....I do feel that the stage is set up for a Tsunami of the Holy Spirit!!!

I can't remember ever having been so filled with hope....although yes....some serious problems are certainly coming as well!

http://www.christianforums.com/t7681942/

Do you believe a massive Holy Spirit tsunami is coming?
 
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I hope you are right about the Holy Spirit flooding humanity with his wisdom and insights. But I am pessimistic that anything will change humanity's awful trajectory. Evil has become far too deeply entrenched in humanity from religion and politics down to how ordinary folks think and act. That is because most folks have embraced a sociopolitical religion that extolls the "vitues" of pride, vanity, selfishness, greed, self-indulgence, idolarty, and foolishness. Alas....
 
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A message from Adam? What complete twaddle. It seems to me that Mr Joyner rather fancies himself.

We don't need spurious 'messages' of this kind. All that we need is already in the Bible, and the canon is closed.
 
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A message from Adam? What complete twaddle. It seems to me that Mr Joyner rather fancies himself.

We don't need spurious 'messages' of this kind. All that we need is already in the Bible, and the canon is closed.

My wife is Pentecostal so I found that Pastor Joyner's book was extremely helpful for me to better understand both the positive side, as well as the negative side to gifts such as speaking in tongues.

I was so impressed with The Vision that I read most of it over again perhaps five times over the past couple of years!
 
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Over the past 22 years my understanding of the Bible has been transformed by my studies of near death experience accounts.

Howard Storm was shown that the Holy Spirit would be poured out in such a way that would even prevent full scale nuclear war!


The therapy of love and enlightenment



This sure seemed to fit with the prophecies that eventually everybody will know God from the least to the greatest.
 
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A message from Adam? What complete twaddle. It seems to me that Mr Joyner rather fancies himself.

We don't need spurious 'messages' of this kind. All that we need is already in the Bible, and the canon is closed.


The canon being closed is an arbitrary manner--just as arbitrary as how the New Testament came to be what it is. God, the Son, and the Holy Spirit did not stop revealing truth to humans way back when. Since the closing of the canon, many individuals have been inspired to reveal Truth by mouth and pen. Their experiences, revelations, and insights are just as vauable as anything experienced and revealed by anyone who added literature to the New Testament. I, however, strongly doubt Mr Joyner's example is one of them....
 
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A full-scale nuclear war might be precluded. But there will be a large-scale nuclear war, which will destroy America. As another consequence, over four billion people will perish....
 
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A full-scale nuclear war might be precluded. But there will be a large-scale nuclear war, which will destroy America. As another consequence, over four billion people will perish....


We look at time as being limited to being a straight line but theoretical physics indicates that time is more likely shaped like a menorah, with many many branches. There may have been a valid prophecy regarding nuclear war, but I have reason to believe that we are living in a branch of time when this does not have to be the case.

A scriptural explanation for this idea is:

Isaiah 40:17 All nations before him [are] as nothing; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.

and.....Ezekiel 37 is not an event that God is limited to doing merely once...but in fact can do as often as God wishes to resurrect us.....


Ezekiel 37 (Blue Letter Bible: KJV - King James Version)



Also.....

Romans 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable [are] his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
 
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I found this line suspect, which leads me to believe it may all be suspect, I have not had chance to study it, I will read it again.

Soon the life of the Son of God will swallow up the death that was released through my disobedience

Sounds like he is saying that soon God will swallow up the death that was released from the original sin of the first Adam. The Bible teaches that the Jesus must reign until he has put all enemies under his feet, and that the last enemy that there will be to destroy is death. Paul then states that Jesus has put all things under his feet and given us power over the grave and victory over death.

1Co 15:25-27 "For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. "

Paul then continues by asking the question Death where is thy sting? Grave where is thy victory? Thanks be to God, which gives us victory over death and the grave through our Lord Jesus Christ.

1Co 15:55-57 "O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ"
 
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I would be suspect to anything Rick Joyner writes considering in his book the "quest" he has stated it is not a sin to take the mark of the beast

other than that we are told as Christians not to love our lives, he says we should love them and since the Holy Spirit has made it known this whole earth will be burned up, he also tells us we should love the earth

I just find too many things don't line up with the trustworthy word of God
 
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I would sure like to see an exact quotation on that because I read both the The Final Quest as well as The Call and I did not see anything quite like that stated!

On the other hand since my teenage years I was taught by Mr. Garner Ted Armstrong that the "mark of the beast" was enforced for 1260 years during the dark ages. Can you guess in what way the mark of the beast was enforced at that time and how it could teach us much about how a Christian can be forgiven and saved out of extremely difficult circumstances?
 
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Excellent questions InHisKingdom...but my impression is a little different. My view of the swallowing up of the death released by Adam is that all of us who come to God and are saved out of this extremely difficult world that is in a sense ran by the dragon, will have learned lessons that could not be learned even in heaven in the presence of God?!

It is like an alcoholic who repents and turns to God and then is able to reach out to other alcoholics with an effectiveness that somebody who has never experienced alcoholism usually would not have!

It is like our sins and negative experiences and foolishness of the past.....once they are finally covered by the blood of Messiah....can in a sense become an asset that God uses to help others!

Truly, those of us who are forgiven much love much!

Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua never sinned at all....and yet loved others and God at a level we can't hardly imagine so things don't have to be that way...but the reality of life of this beautiful third rock is that those of us who came up out of incredibly difficult circumstances do seem to be given an unusually powerful mantle or calling.

Dr. Joyce Meyer is one of the best examples I know of. Her life as a child and teenager was horrible......but all of it has helped to take her to a place of humility where she sees God differently than if she had been given a loving and kind human father?????!!!!!
 
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This "message" sounds contrived to me....

Howdy, Dennis. How have you been doing? I have missed you....


I have to admit that I do tend to get side tracked by Facebook!

Thank you for letting me know that you miss me!

I've been kind of busy promoting the idea of addressing world hunger, the threat of rising ocean levels, flaws in our monetary policy and peace in the Middle East all at the same time!!!



Proposal for the creation of a Quebec provincial currency unit to save coastal communities from threat of rising ocean levels.
by West Antarctic Ice Sheet on Thursday, March 8, 2012 at 8:58am ·

In my opinion it is going to cost trillions of dollars to do what needs to be done to protect towns like Truro, and Antigonish, Nova Scotia from the consequences of the cracking and sliding of a large part of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet and the land based Greenland Ice Pack into the ocean.

The province of Alberta attempted to create its own provincial currency unit during The Great Depression but enormous pressure was exerted to ensure that their experiment in monetary policy was unsuccessful.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberta_Social_Credit_Party

The province of Quebec seems to be in much better position to create its own provincial currency unit without facing the massive backlash from the financial community and federal government that Alberta experienced.

Dr. James Hansen has stated that the last time that global temperatures rose by three degrees ocean levels rose by 25 meters over four centuries. Canada and the world are NOT yet prepared for ocean rise of one meter every twenty years.

Nearly one hundred million people in Bangladesh alone will become climate change refugees in the event of merely a one meter rise in ocean levels!
 
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A message from Adam? What complete twaddle. It seems to me that Mr Joyner rather fancies himself.

We don't need spurious 'messages' of this kind. All that we need is already in the Bible, and the canon is closed.

^^^
What she said!
 
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^^^
What she said!

Well....my wife is Pentecostal and Pastor Joyner's book helped me a lot to understand some of the intriguing things that happen around my wife!


This chapter 15 of his book that states that God is the most emotional being in the universe is unlike anything that I have ever read before. Wasn't it Daniel who wrote that in the "latter days" many would run to and fro and knowledge would increase? Isn't the mystery being revealed far more so in our time than ever before?


Col 1:26 [Even] the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:


TheVision The Final Quest the Call RickJoyner PDF

Pastor Rick Joyner, The Vision, page 85 and 86:

CHAPTER 15 Worship in Spirit
 
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