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A little insight into who accuses us.

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John 8:44 NET You people are from your father the devil, and you want to do what your father desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not uphold the truth, because there is no truth in him. Whenever he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, because he is a liar and the father of lies.

There is no truth in him, none at all. He is lies right the way through.

God is quite the opposite, God is love, love right the way through.
 
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John 8:44 NET You people are from your father the devil, and you want to do what your father desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not uphold the truth, because there is no truth in him. Whenever he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, because he is a liar and the father of lies.

There is no truth in him, none at all. He is lies right the way through.

God is quite the opposite, God is love, love right the way through.
God is is truth, God is love, God is just, God is. . .
 
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John 8:44 NET You people are from your father the devil, and you want to do what your father desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not uphold the truth, because there is no truth in him. Whenever he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, because he is a liar and the father of lies.

There is no truth in him, none at all. He is lies right the way through.

God is quite the opposite, God is love, love right the way through.
The ACCUSER of the Brethren is in Rev 12:10

And he accusing Israel !!

Why ??

If Satan gets rid of Israel , and kills them , Satan stops Christ from ruling in the Millennial Kingdom !!

dan p
 
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From "Interveiew with an Exorcist" by Fr. Jose Antonio Fortea.


13. Do Demons experience pleasure?

Yes, but only in a spiritual sense. As a pure spirit, a demon can derive pleasure only with his intelligence and will. Intellectual pleasures might seem less intense or real than the pleasures of the senses, but this is not the case. Pleasures of the intellect can be as sublime and varied as those of the five senses. Think about the enjoyment that reading a good book, playing a game of chess, or attending the symphony brings; such pleasures are eminently "spiritual" - that is, intellectual - even though other senses might be involved.

In spite of the demons' drifting far from God, their spiritual powers - intellect and will - remain intact. So their ability to experience pleasure remains intact as well. What they cannot do is love someone with a supernatural love. The capacity to love has been annihlated in the psychology of a demon. A demons knows but does not love. The pleasure achieved in doing an evil act is the same as that which a human being feels when he gets revenge on an enemy - it is a pleasure filled with hate.

On rare occasions I used to see a demonic look on a certain person's face. What seemed to come through even more than a sense of evil was pure hatred.
 
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God is is truth, God is love, God is just, God is. . .
It is said that Saint Thomas More observed that God is love right the way through, and one cannot conceive of a more truthful statement regarding the nature of God.
 
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