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I've decided that I need to take another look at Christianity. I guess, in the end, there were various things that have led me away. One is that religion seems to cause so much division in this world and sometimes I just don't see a lot of love from Christians. But aside from that there are other things which led me away..questions I have and I feel that rather than giving up I should try to look for answers.

1. Original sin...is it just me, or does it look like a set up? Here we have an all-knowing god and he creates the world and everything in it...including the Tree of Knowledge. He puts this tree right in the middle of the garden where the humans are. Thing is....he already *knows* what will happen. So why put something so dangerous around the people he loves when he knows what's going to happen?

2. This brings me onto another question. God is supposed to be all-knowing right? Which is the basis for my question above...however, after He didn't seem to know what had happened after the original sin. He had to ask Adam and Eve what they'd done. So is he all-knowing or not?

3. Also, what is sin? It seems to vary from Christian to Christian. For an example, some say getting drunk is a sin, some say it isn't. Some of those that say getting drunk is a sin, say that drinking but not getting drunk is ok. Others say that any drinking at all is a sin. Another example, some say tattoos are a sin...some say they're not. I can think of other examples but you get the point. There seems to be different opinions on what is a sin...so how do you know what is and what isn't?

4. Why does god seem like two different gods? In the old testament, he seems very jealous and cruel. In new testament, he seems very loving and forgiving. Why the difference?

5. Do you really believe that god killed loads of little children during the passover? Or that he killed loads of people when the Israelites were taking over the promised land? Or all the stuff he did to Job? If these things are true, doesn't that make god cruel and evil?

6. Hell. I'm an ex-christian and believe me I tried to believe in such a place but I can't do it. Now I know there are other theories, but lets just say that this whole "place of eternal torture" thing is true...how could a loving god create such a place? How can a god that preaches forgiveness, create such a place?

7. Why is god so concerned about what we believe instead of how we act? It doesn't make sense to me that beliefs would determine where someone goes after death.

8. How do you know god even exists? This is a big question for me. I used to be a Christian, I used to believe. However, as much as I'd love to believe that there's a loving god watching over me I just can't anymore. So how do you know?

Right, I think that is all for now.
 

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1. Original sin...is it just me, or does it look like a set up? Here we have an all-knowing god and he creates the world and everything in it...including the Tree of Knowledge. He puts this tree right in the middle of the garden where the humans are. Thing is....he already *knows* what will happen. So why put something so dangerous around the people he loves when he knows what's going to happen?

My personal opinion is that the tree is an illustration of man's rebellion of God's laws.

2. This brings me onto another question. God is supposed to be all-knowing right? Which is the basis for my question above...however, after He didn't seem to know what had happened after the original sin. He had to ask Adam and Eve what they'd done. So is he all-knowing or not?

That god asked Adam a rhetorical question to lead him to acknowledge his sin, in no was means that God is not all-knowing.

3. Also, what is sin? It seems to vary from Christian to Christian. For an example, some say getting drunk is a sin, some say it isn't. Some of those that say getting drunk is a sin, say that drinking but not getting drunk is ok.

Anyone who says that drunkenness isn't a sin hasn't read the Bible.

Another example, some say tattoos are a sin...some say they're not.

What does the Bible say.

4. Why does god seem like two different gods? In the old testament, he seems very jealous and cruel. In new testament, he seems very loving and forgiving. Why the difference?

This is a very common misconception among those who don't read the Bible.

God showed great love and mercy for His children in the OT, as well as judgement and punishment in the NT.

5. Do you really believe that god killed loads of little children during the passover? Or that he killed loads of people when the Israelites were taking over the promised land? Or all the stuff he did to Job? If these things are true, doesn't that make god cruel and evil?

No. I believe that these things are misconceptions by people who don't read the Bible, but instead rely on anti-Christian websites.

6. Hell. I'm an ex-christian

How does one become an "ex-Christian"?

Either you're a Christian or you're not.

Now I know there are other theories, but lets just say that this whole "place of eternal torture" thing is true...how could a loving god create such a place? How can a god that preaches forgiveness, create such a place?

God isn't willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

However, those who choose to serve sin are enemies of God.

The question isn't, "how can a loving God create Hell", but, "how can a righteous and just God go to such extraordinary lengths to redeem His enemies and reconcile them to Himself".

7. Why is god so concerned about what we believe instead of how we act?

What we believe determines how we act.

What we believe determines which Jesus we're going to follow.

It doesn't make sense to me that beliefs would determine where someone goes after death.

Repentance and faith in Christ determine where someone goes after death.

8. How do you know god even exists?

Because I have the evidence of creation and the evidence of scripture.

This is a big question for me. I used to be a Christian, I used to believe.

Would you mind sharing your testimony with us?

So how do you know?

Because there's just too much evidence to deny it.
 
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I've decided that I need to take another look at Christianity. I guess, in the end, there were various things that have led me away. One is that religion seems to cause so much division in this world and sometimes I just don't see a lot of love from Christians.

Being divided from the world is a result of embracing Jesus. But this division does not lead to anger or violence when one follows the teachings of the Messiah Jesus. So being separate in Spirit does not mean being antagonistic. People who have the right Spirit are loving.

You should never judge God by those who claim to believe in Him. Humans are... well human. Therefore they are faulty. So judging a message from God by the human messenger who give it is a very dangerous thing to do. The message of God must be taken in independent of the faulty human element.

Jesus is not justified by His followers, the followers are justified by Jesus.



But aside from that there are other things which led me away..questions I have and I feel that rather than giving up I should try to look for answers.

1. Original sin...is it just me, or does it look like a set up? Here we have an all-knowing god and he creates the world and everything in it...including the Tree of Knowledge. He puts this tree right in the middle of the garden where the humans are. Thing is....he already *knows* what will happen. So why put something so dangerous around the people he loves when he knows what's going to happen?


We trust that God had a very important reason for allowing our ancestors to come to the knowledge of Good and Evil. Even though we are now flawed we can still embrace what is good in our hearts. And God has made a way that we can be made acceptable to exist with Him in eternity. God know what was going to happen, but He also knew He would provide a way to Redeem us from our ancestors rebellion.



2. This brings me onto another question. God is supposed to be all-knowing right? Which is the basis for my question above...however, after He didn't seem to know what had happened after the original sin. He had to ask Adam and Eve what they'd done. So is he all-knowing or not?

Many parents also do the same kind of thing. Many parents when they find there little child with a pencil and child’s scribbles all over the wall will ask the child "what have you done?" of course the parent knows that the kid has done. The reason for asking is to get a confession out of the child.



3. Also, what is sin? It seems to vary from Christian to Christian. For an example, some say getting drunk is a sin, some say it isn't. Some of those that say getting drunk is a sin, say that drinking but not getting drunk is ok. Others say that any drinking at all is a sin.

Once again you are confused because you are not getting the information from the source of the truth but you are relying on the information second hand through faulty human beings. That’s dangerous. God has provided us with the Holy Spirit and the Bible. Why not access it and read it asking for the help of the Holy Spirit and find out for yourself if getting drunk is good bad or irrelevant to the will of God?



Another example, some say tattoos are a sin...some say they're not. I can think of other examples but you get the point. There seems to be different opinions on what is a sin...so how do you know what is and what isn't?

As i said above follow Jesus, seek out the will of God from the source not 3rd hand or 10th hand.



4. Why does god seem like two different gods? In the old testament, he seems very jealous and cruel. In new testament, he seems very loving and forgiving. Why the difference?

He is the same God, God is a God of loving kindness but he is also a God to pure justice. No sin is acceptable in the presence of perfection. Therefore all sin will have no place with Him in eternity. God is Both a God of Love and a God of wrath upon evil. Jesus did not take away this justice or remove wrath. But made a way that those worthy of wrath could have their sins atoned for. This gift of grace must be accepted for it to be in effect for the individual. The act of acceptance is a confession of ones need for it. God has always been willing to withhold His wrath from a repentant and contrite spirit. Those who reject the Love of the truth (Jesus) are still under the wrath of God. So God has not changed. He has only delayed wrath to give those under it a chance to accept forgiveness.



5. Do you really believe that god killed loads of little children during the passover? Or that he killed loads of people when the Israelites were taking over the promised land? Or all the stuff he did to Job? If these things are true, doesn't that make god cruel and evil?

This may sound hard. But the little ones have not come to the knowledge of Good or Evil. So they are perfectly acceptable in eternity with God. So it can be seen that their deaths gave them eternity with God. For them the loss of life at a young age gave them access to eternal life assured. As for Job, The long term affect on Job was to make him far stronger in faith because of his experiences. His long-term gain and satans (the false accuser) loss made it all worthwhile.



6. Hell. I'm an ex-christian and believe me I tried to believe in such a place but I can't do it. Now I know there are other theories, but lets just say that this whole "place of eternal torture" thing is true...how could a loving god create such a place? How can a god that preaches forgiveness, create such a place?

God preaches forgiveness indeed. But forgiveness rejected is to reject eternity with God.



7. Why is god so concerned about what we believe instead of how we act? It doesn't make sense to me that beliefs would determine where someone goes after death.

We cannot be perfect in this world. Therefore we cannot act good all the time. But we can agree with what is good all the time. We can have trust in the guidance of God. We cannot be righteous in the flesh but we can be righteous in Spirit.

An example: Have you ever seen parents who watch their little kids playing sport? Now the little kids have no real skills or co-ordination, they have not developed any positional awareness or how to play like a team. But even so a Loving parent will be gladdened when they see their little one go out there and give it their best effort. A Loving parent is happy when they see their kid playing with the right spirit, even though their little one has absolutely no skill co-ordination or team knowledge.



8. How do you know god even exists? This is a big question for me. I used to be a Christian, I used to believe. However, as much as I'd love to believe that there's a loving god watching over me I just can't anymore. So how do you know?

The Message of the Bible. It is totally awesome. You should give it a read one day, for yourself. Seek a personal relationship with God and stop trying to relate to Him through other people. God is not your pastor, God is not your dad or your mom, God is not that slick man on the tv with the outrageous hair doo :D .
No God is God, get in personal contact with Him and ask Him to guide you to understanding. If you are real with him He will be real with you.

Right, I think that is all for now.

Until next time then... if God is willing. :)


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First, God made a people from Their image, so then everything we are to be is caught up in who They are which includes the all important argument of free will. Free will does not impede in God’s ability to be God including His foreknowledge of time. I don’t suggest that the logic of progression of free will should be either God knows everything and there is no free will or God does not know everything and we make the future. Instead, as I already presupposed, the dynamic of life was created by God for the work of the collective effort of God and humans to provide necessary labor to provide continued harmony in existence.

Second, Who are you? What are you? What have you used Their creation for? There are profound questions in the bible that cut through all the things in life. We find out the even after sin, God pursues humans to restore harmony. Central moving forward in life is revaluation of where you have been and what you have gone after. We were not meant to neglect our intelligence by living a life of reactions to situations. Instead, we learn from all of life to mature into a health whole human that They created. So this begins with the question where are you? What have you done? Who are you?

3. Sin is a failure to love God, each other, and self. Sin manifests itself in multiple forms, but it all goes back to that failure. (ie…getting drunk…Don’t get drunk on wine in which lies debauchery, instead be filled with the Spirit,…alcohol has been used as a escape mechanism so that they can feel joy or not deal with reality…but a Christian is a person who is driving after ultimate reality which is God )

4. This can be debated…but God has appointed days and times for judgment because of sin.
(For the wrath of God is revealed from His eternal power of the His kingdom against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness because what might be known of God is manifest in them, for He has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly been seen, being understood by the things that are made, even establishment of His eternal power and revelation of the Trinity within creation,…Because although you knew God, you did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in your thoughts, and your foolish heart was darkened. Therefore, God gave you over to a debased mind to do the things which are not fitting…sin

Do you despise the riches of God’s goodness, forebearance, and longsuffering (because of sin), not knowing the goodness of God leads you to repentance? But in accordance to your harden and your impenitent heart you have treasured up wrath on the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, who will render onto each one according to his deeds)

5. yes. but not a cruel God...God is Holy and we are to be holy because He is Holy.

6. If you throw out a God who gets upset of the misuse of Their world and punishes disobedient children, then you can move toward no Hell…but Hell apart of Christianity and it is not something you can throw out. Think about this…the purpose of our current life is a maturing of humans to be dedicated to providing for creation. Those who aren’t dedicated to building up life…that it is want to be dedicate to the destruction…God gives them the place of destruction to apart of.

7. Did Adam and Eve get punished for a thought of eating the fruit or the product of the thought which lead the action of actually eating it? Did Abel get punished for the thought of killing his brother or the actual murder? Central to being a Christian is faith. Think of faith as threehold: 1) discernment of good/evil (knowing and identifying the truth and way to be) 2) commitment to principles (we call it believing which involve actions, spoken of as the walk of faith; it is a relationship) 3) passionate pursuit (we call it being consumed with an emotional fire to be like Jesus)
8. Again you want proof…proof…proof…I know God because His Spirit is the ultimate reality of creation and the purpose we were meant for. To love God then all of creation is as yourself is central to being a Christian. The Spirit (God’s intent for us) that He gives is an enduring unselfish compassionate forgiven providing love.
 
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1. I cannot give you a definative answer on this one.

2. God is all knowing, He wanted Adam and Eve to be able to admit that they had done wrong and for them to understnad wrong from right

3. What one determines to be a sin will determine on the convictions that God has given each individual. I know several Christians who think drinking is wrong and several others who think it is okay. These peolpe are even family members. It all depends on the convictions that God gives to each individual and how that individual decides to react to them.

4. The God of the OT was one of wrath. He was mad at his people for contsantly disobeying Him. the God of the NT is one of love becuase Jesus had come to save the world.

5. The first born sons that were killed during the passover were raised in homes of the Egyptians. They were worshipping idols. Yes. I do believe it. As for when teh Isrealites were taking over the promised land, yes I believe that too. All except for a few people believed that taking over the promised land would be impossible, even with God on their side. God forced His people to wander in the desert until all the disbelievers had died. God did not do all those things to Job. God allowed Satan to do them as a test for Job to see if he would curse Job, which on a side note, Job did not.

6. God gives individuals the oppurtunity to choose between following Him or not. If you do not follow Him you are sent to Hell. If you do, you will have eternal life in Heaven. God gives us many oppourtunities to choose which path we are going to take.

7. One's beliefs usually influence one's actions. God wants one to first be consumed in him then do His will on earth so one may have eternal life.

8. I wouldn't be alive if He didn't. As a child, I had a severe illness and the doctors told my mum it would be a miracle if I made it through and if I did, I would probably need a kidney transplant. That night a bunch of people from my church came and prayed over me and the next morning I was almost at 100% health again. Now 5 years later, I am in wonderful health and did not need a kidney transplant. I do not have 100% kidney function (nor will I ever) but the fact I am here to tell you about it in itself is a miracle.

My mum wouldn't be alive if God didn't exist. She was given at most a month to live becuase of severe cancer. That was 6 years ago and she is doing amazingly well and the doctors are almost at the point of calling her cured.

I hope I was able to answer some of your questions. Feel free to PM me if you want to talk further.

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i hope yo udont' mind me giving a few ideas to think about here with your OP. because of the text limits, i'm just going to use the numbers you gave your questions on in your OP.
i look at the Genesis story as narrative and metaphorical. i mean with walking snakes (we can assume the serpant walked cause of the condemnation) and also that there was similiar stories of the fall floating around at that time.

i do believe the story provides deep truth of how humanitys act, not as how they acted back then solely.

i think original sin is a sketchy attempt at trying to explain the problems of the world. it's too dualistic for me to accept as "truth", but it offers one explanation to give someone some explanation of why there is evil in this world.

i tend to look at the fallen story like this.

we have the same ability that adam and eve had. no one else is guilty for another's sin. no one should be put to death cause of another's sin. it isn't biblical, and it makes no sense with justice (even if the only outcome of the fall was that our bodies die.) we have the same opportunity as they did, and visa versa (the visa versa is only to show my point. :) )

what i will say tho in this regard is this may be the first instance that we documented (whether or not it is literal or metaphorical) of the first act of sin possibly. but that doesn't mean we're guilty of born into sin because our parents conceived us. it just means we will see the same thing happen time and time again even now, because Adam and Eve as the story goes, were humans, and we are humans. the same traits will always be shared between species.

if Paul's words are right that the plan of redemption was set before time, then God must have known. now why didn't God stop it so that sin wouldn't even be in our lives in the first place? in my opinion it is not God's responsibility to not "sin". that's not me saying that God sins, but what i am saying, whether or not God knew it was going to happen or not may just be irrelevant, cause the blame isn't on God, but on the human being. and even in the Genesis story, take a look at chapters 1 and 2 if you have any free-time. notice there some major differences within the same creation story. point being, the reason why they were written leads me to several conclusions:
we are understanding spiritual truths given to us by Moses the best we can and i think it is safe to assume that most of Christian understanding isn't based on Moses, the story wasn't meant to be "literal" but show deep spiritual truth of humanity, maybe God was wanting to test humanity by asking a question to a guilty person as we all do to someone who has done a wrong when we know they did already, or we see human beings putting human characteristics on a non-human being, meaning God.

to me, sin is breaking the 2 greatest commandments of Christ, which Christ said, are the two laws that the entire law is based on. i'm not going to judge a person if they are sinning or not. what human being has the capacity to even use scripture to say, your sinning. i have my personal views of certain sinful or ungodly actions, but as to define sin by simple actions i think is severely off based.

simply put, if someone isn't loving t heir neighbor as themselves, which would in turn mean they aren't loving God with all their heart, soul and mind, breaking those laws is what dictates as sin to me. i just don't play the shoes of God, unless it's blatant, which when it comes ot that point, even non-Christians can see it as "sin" as well, they just may word if "differently."

i believe the soul difference is because of the authorship of the Bible and the time the scriptures were written playing in a major part. let's remember that the Gospels were written about the life of Christ, and then the Epistles were written to strenthen the church that was being formed around this man, and then Revelations of course being a book that is really hard to put its finger on what the sole intention was about and then we know the Old Testament was books written about the Jewish people and their history with historical happenings, beliefs, spirituality and so on so forth.

and another point, am i suppossed to see God as some schizo because Moses and all the authors portray different versions of "God" in the Bible? i say no. but i believe we see many dimensions of God in the scriptures. we can find prooftext of verses that state God doesn't change, but then others that state God repents. then we see verses that state God is holy, but then verses that light, darkness, holiness and evil come from the Lord. if God is all powerful, infinite and eternal, there are going to be many dimensions we see God, and i think it is shown quite well in the scriptures. we're going to see things that we define as "evil", and then things we define as "good."

i also believe as human being progress, we're going to see changes, progressions in our views of God as well.

point being, i think the different ways of seeing God is solely based on what dimension the authors were looking at with God and with the historical things going on in their life and society. we can't deny that our surroundings effect our perspective of "God", but we can do is critically examine everything and hold on to the good. if God isn't a human being, then i see no reason to judge Him in any fashion. i believe He is holy because of Christ's deeds and Christ's deeds ONLY just cause i'm in the belief that Christ was the most fulfilled examplifer of the Father. i also hold a rather abstract view of the Father, because my human capacity isn't big enough to see God in any fashion. it is only because of Christ that i see God as holy. without Christ, i'd either be in another religion, or two, my view of God, if i would believe in God at that hypothetical point, would either be extremely agnostic, and definitions would be severely abstract, or i may not believe in the first place, don't really know since the only religion i have ever believed in is Christianity and that dates back to since i was 12 years old.

i hope i stayed on topic with my response to that question of yours :)

i don't know how to answer this. if i would answer by using my own definitions of holy and evil i'd have to say, no i don't believe God did that. but, if i'd be honest with myself too, then i would say those things are possible because of how magnificant God is defined as (magnificant meaning in the adjectives we tie on to God's personality.) so the point is, i don't know. none of us here are ancient individuals that can perceive God as doing such things, some of us just take the claim of Moses as literal things that happened. even with that, what about all the other religions that portrated that God lead them to do such things? ancient civilizations, bent on war and such, finding reasons to move, conquerer their enemies, and i'm not like that and i don't know too many people that think like that, so how can anyone make a true judgement on God with this? i think many things are possible with this here, but i have to keep in mind the differences of the modern readers, and the ancient civilization that wrote these books, especially when the traits of saying God is leading them to war and that God slaughtered these people are claims that other religions made too. again, critically examine everything and hold on to the good. :)

let's remember who does the preaching of forgiveness? have you heard God say it yet? :p i believe if your the same person i've discussed this topic in LT, then you know my views already on hell. but here's maybe some more things to add.

i have my own views that i believe we have talked about when your id name here was different about hell and the afterlife(if i'm thinking of a different peron, please correct and forgive me.) some things to think about with hell is the origins of it. we can see the Old Testament talking more about Sheol, and we can see various of things mentioned about Sheol. Sheol meaning in the here and now, and Sheol meaning the afterlife. then we have the New Testament written in Greek, and see many greek ideas portrayed. ie Hades, and such. then we can see things portrayed with Gehenna, and if you wanted, you can go to "hell" today if you wanted to. there are airline ticketing for that, it's in the Middle East. we can see the historical happenings with pagan religions at the time doing what they did, and reasons why someone would call that "hell". then we can see mythological expression explained by authors like Dante and views vary from Augustine, Origen, St. Gregory of Nyssa and all types of views from afterlife experiences to testimonials. but one question comes to my mind is, ok translations of the Bible may say Hades, but that's a pagan place, i thought i wasn't pagan so should i believe in it? how can pagan mythology mix with Christian mythology (please note, that my use of mythological is not derragotry to Christianity. it's more of stating what it is in its language and usage over the centuries.)

point is, i believe hell is real. i believe we can experience this in this life and i believe we can plant seeds for people to be "redeemed". but what i don't make a set statement on is what places are in the afterlife. i find myself going towards an explanation of the view of the afterlife that there is only one afterlife, and that heaven and hell is experienced based upon one's disposition of God. now i have my other beliefs too, that with a God who's will is to reconcile everyone through the knowledge of Christ as Paul said, that, that gives me reason to have faith or hope that just maybe God will get His Will done. but i guess it's up to the person to either one believe in mythological descriptions as literal fact, or believe they are portraying other things, they view God.

i personally don't bother myself with hell that much. i believe God is capable of doing anything, because of views that i believe about God being all-powerful, infinite and eternal and all knowing, but just because i believe that God can do things, that doesn't mean God will do it either.

i just know that the Christian religion has given me reasons to have strong, and wild eyed hope that the God we serve will reconcile people through the knowledge of God but still acknowledging that i may be wrong when i die and go to the afterlife and that God is more than my understanding. i believe that God condemns and punishes people in this life, i think that fact cannot be overlooked, and i could sure put some adjectives and descriptive metaphors to say that is the fire and brimestone of hell, cause of the pain it gives and how people suffer gnashing of the teeth in thei life metaphorically...the constant turmoil we see. why would God let people suffer like that? i dont' know. i imagine for a lot of the times, it is cause and effect. people bring to them what they get and what they choose has an effect, and if they dont' take the obligations and responsibility every choice gives, the effect could be very hellish. and for those that did nothing wrong, i don't know. i guess it shows how faulty this life can be at times but it shows more importantly that we should be looking at reconciling our life now and helping each other to lead them to figure out how to reconcile their life, so they can be a part of the Kingdom of God and that eternal condemnation can actually stop in this life and no one else being hurt, or producing pain on others.

i hope i didn't get off topic. there are a lot of problems with the idea of hell, so my stance i suppose simply put, God is God and the afterlife is the afterlife, i still have a calling on my life to live this life the holiest i can and to follow the steps of Christ as best as i can, whether or not there is a hell, whether or not God will reconcile all, whether or not the afterlife exists at all, whether or not C hristians are the only ones going to heaven or not.

and don't forget there are many views amongst Christians on the afterlife. eternal torment, annihaltionism, universalism, i've even heard a few things about reincarnation, that seem to stem from Origen's views of the pre-existence of souls. so there are a lot of speculation going around out there...still, maybe that shows the point eh? :)

i think God could be concerned for our belief structure, because our beliefs is what dictate our actions, and thus the ability to fulfill His Son's 2 commandments could either be one, easily accomplished, or two, easily broken because of our outlook/beliefs on life.

but on that note, i don't believe that normal life expand of human beings is enough time to know the fullness of truth. Paul states that we see darkly through the glass now but we will see the fulness later. so how God judges however God judges, and only one can speculate, but i think it is healthy to have a good belief system filled with honesty, critically examination(no matter if the outcome is like others outcome or not), humility and love, faith (as best as we can, and if we can't, then to do the best we can nevertheless and have the best as we can a good belief system) and leave how God determines who goes where in the afterlife in God's hands...that's His job, not ours and do our best to fulfill the commanmdnets of God given to us from the Jews, and from Christ. of course the outcome is always going to be different amongst things, reminds me of Paul saying, "Work out your faith with fear and trembling." to which the last part i wouldn't go so far that it means like some horror flick fear, but a reverance for God, and reminds me to of something that Paul mentioned that a sin for one person may not be a sin for another (whether that be ideas, or even actions.)

i don't know. i don't have the evidence to provide that states specifically that God exists. i am not convinced of any emperical evidence out there to show this.

but i do believe that faith is the evidence of things unseen. so with faith, comes speculation and hope. i think we see plenty of speculation throughout the entire existence of humanity, not just among Christianity.

so my answer simply is faith. faith is the only way one can believe in things unseen. a collective of faiths "could" show at least, proof of the existence of a Ultimate Divine Being we call God. is faith scientific? it better never be, cause that i wonder and i'm saying wondering here, would kill the very essence of Christianity and all the religions as a whole.

Right, I think that is all for now.
i hope all my response stayed on track.

Peace!
 
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I've decided that I need to take another look at Christianity. I guess, in the end, there were various things that have led me away. One is that religion seems to cause so much division in this world and sometimes I just don't see a lot of love from Christians. But aside from that there are other things which led me away..questions I have and I feel that rather than giving up I should try to look for answers.

1. Original sin...is it just me, or does it look like a set up? Here we have an all-knowing god and he creates the world and everything in it...including the Tree of Knowledge. He puts this tree right in the middle of the garden where the humans are. Thing is....he already *knows* what will happen. So why put something so dangerous around the people he loves when he knows what's going to happen?

2. This brings me onto another question. God is supposed to be all-knowing right? Which is the basis for my question above...however, after He didn't seem to know what had happened after the original sin. He had to ask Adam and Eve what they'd done. So is he all-knowing or not?

3. Also, what is sin? It seems to vary from Christian to Christian. For an example, some say getting drunk is a sin, some say it isn't. Some of those that say getting drunk is a sin, say that drinking but not getting drunk is ok. Others say that any drinking at all is a sin. Another example, some say tattoos are a sin...some say they're not. I can think of other examples but you get the point. There seems to be different opinions on what is a sin...so how do you know what is and what isn't?

4. Why does god seem like two different gods? In the old testament, he seems very jealous and cruel. In new testament, he seems very loving and forgiving. Why the difference?

5. Do you really believe that god killed loads of little children during the passover? Or that he killed loads of people when the Israelites were taking over the promised land? Or all the stuff he did to Job? If these things are true, doesn't that make god cruel and evil?

6. Hell. I'm an ex-christian and believe me I tried to believe in such a place but I can't do it. Now I know there are other theories, but lets just say that this whole "place of eternal torture" thing is true...how could a loving god create such a place? How can a god that preaches forgiveness, create such a place?

7. Why is god so concerned about what we believe instead of how we act? It doesn't make sense to me that beliefs would determine where someone goes after death.

8. How do you know god even exists? This is a big question for me. I used to be a Christian, I used to believe. However, as much as I'd love to believe that there's a loving god watching over me I just can't anymore. So how do you know?

Right, I think that is all for now.
Hi Nat

I'm glad you have decided to revisit the whole issue of Christianity and your beliefs.

I am not going to try to answer your questions here, anything I have to say will probably cause more questions any way, and either you will find the answers you are looking for with (I believe) God's help or you will not!

But if you are serious about your search, I would recommend that you get hold of some books by Brian D McLaren - A New Kind of Christian; The Story We find Ourselves in; and The Last Word and the Word ofter that.

For the questions you are asking now, the second of these three would probably be the most helpful.

Good luck in your quest for the truth, and I pray that you will find it and that it will set you free.

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I've been working on this all evening...thank you for giving me the opportunity to dive in and look at your questions.

1. Original sin...is it just me, or does it look like a set up? Here we have an all-knowing god and he creates the world and everything in it...including the Tree of Knowledge. He puts this tree right in the middle of the garden where the humans are. Thing is....he already *knows* what will happen. So why put something so dangerous around the people he loves when he knows what's going to happen?[/quote]

If it was a 'set-up', we failed!

God gave us a free will. We are free to choose Him or reject Him. In the garden of Eden, Eve had a free will to stand up for God, instead she disobey what God had commanded. Adam was free to stand up for what he knew God had commanded instead he conformed.

If they had obeyed God in the beginning, we would be in a very different world today. However, Satan had been thrown out of heaven...so even if Adam & Eve had obeyed, Satan would be moving on this earth seeking to destroy God's creation.

God made it clear that there were consequences for their actions.

Instead, God created us, then provided a way for us to come back to Him. Its beyond my wildest dreams what God had originally planned for us. There were actually two trees in the Garden. One was The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, that is the one that they ate from. The other one was The Tree of Life. In Genesis 3:22 we find out what the trees were capable of doing.

[bible]genesis 3:22[/bible]

Satan did not lie, Adam and Eve did become 'like' God. They could recognize Good from Evil...however, God banished them from the garden before they could eat from the Tree of Life. He did not want them to live forever.

2. This brings me onto another question. God is supposed to be all-knowing right? Which is the basis for my question above...however, after He didn't seem to know what had happened after the original sin. He had to ask Adam and Eve what they'd done. So is he all-knowing or not?

He knew exactly what was going on with the original sin. I have children, I hear a noise coming from another room and I know exactly what they've touched. But, I will ask them what they were doing? Why, because I want them to say that they were touching that item. It teaches them to tell the truth, take responsibility for their actions, and bare the consequences for their actions.

Here, God knew what they had done, when they had done it, who started it, who continued it and what they did afterwards. I believe He was giving them an opportunity to confess what they had done and ask for forgiveness...instead, they started pointing fingers...Adam at Eve, Eve at the serpent. Each being bares a consequence. The serpent - cursed above all livestock, crawl on his belly, and eat dust. Woman - pain in childbirth, a need/want/desire to please/follow our husbands, but they will rule or lord over her. Men - the ground was cursed with weeds and he is to work for his food through painful toil or work. Life wasn't going to be easy anymore. God gave them the consequences for their sin...then life goes on. Adam named Eve and God made them clothes...He didn't tell them to get clothes, He showed them compassion and made clothes for them. Then to further protect them, he banished them from the garden.

In Genesis 3:22, God is clear that man had to be banished because he was not to ever touch the Tree of Life.

3. Also, what is sin? It seems to vary from Christian to Christian. For an example, some say getting drunk is a sin, some say it isn't. Some of those that say getting drunk is a sin, say that drinking but not getting drunk is ok. Others say that any drinking at all is a sin. Another example, some say tattoos are a sin...some say they're not. I can think of other examples but you get the point. There seems to be different opinions on what is a sin...so how do you know what is and what isn't?

Looking to people for a definition of what sin is...will always be wrong. We need to look and see what God says sin is. We already know from Genesis 3 that disobeying God is sin. In Exodus 20, we have the 10 Commandments. Throughout scripture, different sins are mentioned but they seem to be specific topics that fall under what is said in Exodus 20. If you have specific ones you are wondering about, look them up in scripture...what does God's Word say?

4. Why does god seem like two different gods? In the old testament, he seems very jealous and cruel. In new testament, he seems very loving and forgiving. Why the difference?

He's not different, in fact He makes it clear to us that He is the same, yesterday, today and forever.
[bible]hebrews 13:7-9[/bible]

You mentioned “jealous”…in Numbers 34:14, He calls Himself Jealous. In 1 Corinthians 10:22 Paul asks if the Corinthians were trying to arouse God’s jealousy…it was definitely acknowledged in the New Testament.

Cruel? What do you mean by “cruel”? Do you mean the punishments for sin? Do you mean the wars? Cruel by definition is:

1. Willfully or knowingly causing pain or distress to others.
- God knows pain will happen, but He isn’t causing it…sin is causing it.

2. Enjoying the pain or distress of others.
- God doesn’t enjoy this, in fact in 1 Chronicles 21 we find David doing something Satan wanted him to do. When David confessed, God gave him a choice of punishment…he chose but God couldn’t finish the punishment because the destruction grieved Him so He stopped it. Sin grieves God. In Genesis 6:7, God tells Noah that He wishes He never created us. He vows to wipe every human, animal, & bird off the earth…yet in compassion he couldn’t because Noah and his family served and loved God. God provided a way…the ark.

3. Causing or marked by great pain or distress: a cruel remark; a cruel affliction.
- Once again, God doesn’t want this, His desire is for us, His creation, His children, to be restored to a relationship with Him.

4. Rigid; stern; strict; unrelentingly severe.
- Yes, God is because He hates sin. We have a choice and we bare the consequences for our choices…good or bad.

“Loving”…the evidence of God’s love is throughout scripture, over and over again we see God’s love. In Exodus 34:6, and repeated again in Psalm 86:15, Joel 2:13, we read that He is compassionate, gracious, patient, loving and faithful. Deuteronomy 7:9&12 tells us He is faithful and loving. In the New Testament we see His love through Jesus death and resurrection and through the pouring out of the holy Spirit.

“Forgiving”…through out the entire Bible we see God’s forgiveness. Micah 7:18 tells us that God delights in showing mercy. He wants to forgive but we have to ask for it, and we have to repent.

5. Do you really believe that god killed loads of little children during the passover? Or that he killed loads of people when the Israelites were taking over the promised land? Or all the stuff he did to Job? If these things are true, doesn't that make god cruel and evil?

Yes, I do believe those things happened… Miracles are used throughout scripture to show God’s power and to confirm His existence. Yet people don’t believe. We can look at each of these situations individually but we cannot see the full picture like God can.

God didn’t do anything to Job. Job 1:12 quotes God saying that everything Job has is in Satan’s hand but he is not allowed to touch Job. In Job 1:20-22, Job acknowledged that everything he had was the Lord’s. In Job 2, he is in pain but his life is spared. Again, Job points out that God is in control. Each situation shows Job’s commitment to God. In the end, God blessed him double what he had originally.

I don’t believe that this shows God as “cruel and evil”. It shows He is in control and sees a MUCH bigger picture.


6. Hell. I'm an ex-christian and believe me I tried to believe in such a place but I can't do it. Now I know there are other theories, but lets just say that this whole "place of eternal torture" thing is true...how could a loving god create such a place? How can a god that preaches forgiveness, create such a place?

We need to remember that this “place of eternal torture” was not made for human beings. It was made for Satan and the other fallen angels, now known as demons. Its crucial we understand that. Matthew 25:41, Jesus is clear that hell was made for the devil and his angels. In 2 Peter 3:9 we read that God doesn’t want us to perish, He wants us to come to repentance. When people end up in hell (they aren’t there now because that happens after judgment) its because they choose to go there. We have two choices: Good or Evil? God or the devil? Defiance or Repentance? If we end up in Hell, we will have no one to blame but ourselves for not heeding the Word of God.

7. Why is god so concerned about what we believe instead of how we act? It doesn't make sense to me that beliefs would determine where someone goes after death.

Our beliefs should dictate our actions. God cares if we believe in Him. Once we believe in Him, we should have a desire to live for Him. Living for Him will dictate our actions. Works do fix our relationship with Him. Romans 8:5-8 is very clear, what we believe in or live according too will dictate our actions.

8. How do you know god even exists? This is a big question for me. I used to be a Christian, I used to believe. However, as much as I'd love to believe that there's a loving god watching over me I just can't anymore. So how do you know?

How do you know He doesn’t? We have to have faith to believe either. Who are you putting your faith in? My faith is rooted in the Lord. I see His creation. The animals, the plants, the mountains, the sky, the moon, sun, stars, the people, the children etc. God created all things. I also see the devil’s hand and its not a pretty sight. Our jails are full, our hospitals are full, children are dying in one part of the world while another part of the world is entrenched in greed and over indulgence.

Getting into the Word is how we get to know God. There is no room on top of the fence, you are either on one side or the other. There is no middle ground. When we decide to not choose God, we are actually making a decision for the devil. There are only two choices. Matthew 7:13-14, gives us the choice of the wide or narrow road but its our choice.
 
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How do you know He doesn’t? We have to have faith to believe either. Who are you putting your faith in? My faith is rooted in the Lord. I see His creation. The animals, the plants, the mountains, the sky, the moon, sun, stars, the people, the children etc. God created all things. I also see the devil’s hand and its not a pretty sight. Our jails are full, our hospitals are full, children are dying in one part of the world while another part of the world is entrenched in greed and over indulgence.


I just wanted to pick up on this point. In my opinion, you don't have to have faith to believe there is no god and nor can I choose my beliefs. I'm not putting my faith in anyone...I guess you're suggesting that I'm putting my faith in the devil, well I don't believe in him either. All I'm doing is looking at the evidence, the scientific evidence, and seeing that there is no proof of a god. Now maybe there is a god that exists somewhere, maybe there is a god and we just haven't been able to prove that yet. I do not rule that out. However, as it stands right now there is no proof...just like there is no proof that fairies or pink bunny rabbits exist. If I told an adult that fairies existed I expect one of the first things they'd do is say "prove it". If I could offer them no evidence I doubt they'd believe me. But them not believing does not require faith, it is simply down to a lack of evidence.

Also, I said that I can not choose my beliefs. If there is an unlit candle in front of me I can't choose to believe that it is lit. The evidence is telling me otherwise...no light, no heat, no melting wax. I can't choose to believe that it is lit. Likewise, with god...I can't choose to believe that there is one when I see no evidence for it. How this universe came into existence can be explained without a need for a god, the same goes for how animals and plants came about, prayers that I've said and which I thought had been answered could have easily have been coincidence, etc. I see no evidence that there is a god, so I can't go against that and choose to believe that one exists. Just like I can't go against the evidence that the candle is unlit and choose to believe it is lit.
 
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Faith is merely filling in the blanks. If you don't know the details, you trust that the message itself is correct. Science is great at measuring natural processes and has made many great breakthroughs for humanity. However, in finding God, you'll find no real answers with science, I'm sorry to say, since it is only limited to measuring the physical world. It's sad, but alot of people trip up when it comes to that point. Science's evidence against God is mainly based on the inability to find God. Wrong tool for the purpose, unfortunately.

Much love, may you come to the truth.
 
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How this universe came into existence can be explained without a need for a god, the same goes for how animals and plants came about, prayers that I've said and which I thought had been answered could have easily have been coincidence, etc. I see no evidence that there is a god, so I can't go against that and choose to believe that one exists. Just like I can't go against the evidence that the candle is unlit and choose to believe it is lit.

Nat

I accept that you are raising reasonable and sensible questions and that you Modern scientific mind requires evidence!

If you approach this subject with that mind set - rather than the open mind of a scientist, whose premise is actually primarily - I do not understand why this .... happens, what can be behind such an event? Then I am afraid that you will swallow any theory that is expounded and appears to be credible - such as the big bang theory where everything came in to being as a result of a nothingness exploding!

I'm sure you can see the absurdity here - if there was nothing then how can it explode?

I offered you a source of a possible alternative to provide you with answers to your questions earlier and I do recommend those books for you, but I will say that there are no empirical answers to the questions you ask, and at some point you have to accept that we humans do not know everything, but that there is room in every culture in the world now and previously for 'mystery'.

Keep seeking with an open mind and heart and I am sure you will find your answer (or perhaps you will be found in your answer!).

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If you approach this subject with that mind set - rather than the open mind of a scientist, whose premise is actually primarily - I do not understand why this .... happens, what can be behind such an event?

I do have an open mind and I am open to the possibility of god existing. I have not ruled that out but I can not believe that is true without evidence.

Then I am afraid that you will swallow any theory that is expounded and appears to be credible - such as the big bang theory where everything came in to being as a result of a nothingness exploding!

I'm sure you can see the absurdity here - if there was nothing then how can it explode?

This is not what the big bang theory states at all. The big bang theory says that the universe came from a singularity...that is, all the matter and energy in an extremely hot and dense form. This is what exploded.
 
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1. Original sin...is it just me, or does it look like a set up? Here we have an all-knowing god and he creates the world and everything in it...including the Tree of Knowledge. He puts this tree right in the middle of the garden where the humans are. Thing is....he already *knows* what will happen. So why put something so dangerous around the people he loves when he knows what's going to happen?

Why God put the tree there nobody will truly understand or know why He did it. There are many things that we can't understand the "why" of it. God could of simply wiped everything out of existence after Adam/Eve sinned, and He most certainly could of wiped Adam/Eve off the face of the earth, but He didn't. Why does He let anybody exist whether we believe or don't believe? He must truly love us if He can put up with our mess. :)

2. This brings me onto another question. God is supposed to be all-knowing right? Which is the basis for my question above...however, after He didn't seem to know what had happened after the original sin. He had to ask Adam and Eve what they'd done. So is he all-knowing or not?

Many times my kids will do something and I know exactly what they've done without even having to ask. Believe me, it doesn't take a genius to figure it out. I ask to receive an answer from them, and to see where their heart is in the matter. Do they have a deceitful heart or a repentant heart?

3. Also, what is sin? It seems to vary from Christian to Christian. For an example, some say getting drunk is a sin, some say it isn't. Some of those that say getting drunk is a sin, say that drinking but not getting drunk is ok. Others say that any drinking at all is a sin. Another example, some say tattoos are a sin...some say they're not. I can think of other examples but you get the point. There seems to be different opinions on what is a sin...so how do you know what is and what isn't?

Yes, there will always be differing views on what you stated, but sin is what separates us from God. If someone wants to believe that staying away from alcohol is better then so be it. If someone believes that one drink is okay then so be it. I have to worry about my own sins rather than other people's. And to know what sin is where studying the bible will help receive our answers on what God expects from us.

4. Why does god seem like two different gods? In the old testament, he seems very jealous and cruel. In new testament, he seems very loving and forgiving. Why the difference?

The problem that most people (especially sceptics) overlook in the OT is the many times that God forgave and showed mercy, kindness, compassion and love. Sceptics immediately pick out the bad without seeing the good.


5. Do you really believe that god killed loads of little children during the passover? Or that he killed loads of people when the Israelites were taking over the promised land? Or all the stuff he did to Job? If these things are true, doesn't that make god cruel and evil?

Yes, I believe what is written in the bible. Why these things were allowed, I do not understand myself and cannot answer.


6. Hell. I'm an ex-christian and believe me I tried to believe in such a place but I can't do it. Now I know there are other theories, but lets just say that this whole "place of eternal torture" thing is true...how could a loving god create such a place? How can a god that preaches forgiveness, create such a place?

Many times in the NT, Jesus talked about hell. He also told us how to receive eternal life.

7. Why is god so concerned about what we believe instead of how we act? It doesn't make sense to me that beliefs would determine where someone goes after death.

God cares very much about how His children act. Our belief in Him reflects our change on the inside and that we are new creatures.

8. How do you know god even exists? This is a big question for me. I used to be a Christian, I used to believe. However, as much as I'd love to believe that there's a loving god watching over me I just can't anymore. So how do you know?

Everybody has their own experience in their life that proves that God is real to them. It's hard to put in words to someone else, but God has given everybody their own testimony to share with others. I have witnessed many things in my christian walk that proved to me that God is real and that He does care for me. Sometimes it's not until I look back on my life that I could see God working.
 
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I do have an open mind and I am open to the possibility of god existing. I have not ruled that out but I can not believe that is true without evidence.



This is not what the big bang theory states at all. The big bang theory says that the universe came from a singularity...that is, all the matter and energy in an extremely hot and dense form. This is what exploded.

Ok Nat

Since you wish to defend the Big Bang theory (and lets remember there is no real evidence for this theory!) - Where in your opinion did the 'singularity' come from?

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Ok Nat

Since you wish to defend the Big Bang theory (and lets remember there is no real evidence for this theory!) - Where in your opinion did the 'singularity' come from?

Pete

I could ask you the same question regarding god. However, I won't as you're wrong in assuming I wish to sit here defending big bang theory. You're the one that brought it into this topic when it has nothing to do with the questions I asked in the OP.
 
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This is not what the big bang theory states at all. The big bang theory says that the universe came from a singularity...that is, all the matter and energy in an extremely hot and dense form. This is what exploded.

Lets just say for the sake of continued discussion that the big bang theory is correct. That the universe came from a singularity.

So tell us now. Where did the singularity come from?


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I could ask you the same question regarding god. However, I won't as you're wrong in assuming I wish to sit here defending big bang theory. You're the one that brought it into this topic when it has nothing to do with the questions I asked in the OP.

I'm sorry Nat, it was not my intention to detract from your original questions either.

I do however, recommend the Brian McLaren books that may offer you a new perspective on the questions you are asking.

I wish you illumination in your quest.

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Nat,

I'm praying for you, I don't think addressing your questions which others have answered so eloquently will do much good, the answer is in your heart

If you must delve into the science of it and need scientific evidences......there are many lectures, and material for you to search through on drdino.com
and answersingenisis.org these are two great sites that address all the questions you could have

In my opinion it takes much more faith to believe in everything came from nothing and we all started out as sludge and happened to evolve into life....I'd liket o see the scientific evidence that will back that up

even the method they use for dating rocks is circular reasoning and the carbon dating system has been proven to be inaccurate

another good resource for you is mere Christianity

CS Lewis struggled with these same issues for decades befroe coming to the conclusion that all his arguments were in vain and there must have been one true LOrd.....he explains his struggles with his beliefs in this book and it is worth checking out

May the Lord bless your search for His truth however if you are waiting for lightening to strike a particular spot you will not have it.....Jesus said to the devil.....Thou shalt not put the Lord Thy God to the test.

Again I'm praying for you
 
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If you must delve into the science of it and need scientific evidences......there are many lectures, and material for you to search through on drdino.com
and answersingenisis.org these are two great sites that address all the questions you could have

I would never in a million years trust those websites. I never accepted creationism even when I was a believer, I'm not going to suddenly start now.

In my opinion it takes much more faith to believe in everything came from nothing

But you're wrong, this is not what I believe and not what science states either. And for the last time, atheism doesn't require faith. Maybe if you were to assert "there is no god...I just know, such a being doesn't exist". That would require faith. But I as far as I know I'm yet to come across an atheist who states such a thing and I certainly don't. But I don't believe that, I believe that the probability of a god existing is small...it's not impossible but it's unlikely and therefore I don't believe because I can't just say "hey, this is very unlikely but I'll believe in it anyway".
 
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Keturah,

This post turned out to be a lot longer than what I had originally hoped it would be, so I'm sorry for that. You asked great questions and I think I got a little carried away with some of them.

One is that religion seems to cause so much division in this world ...

I agree, but people do have a right to believe what they want to. Does not atheism also cause division along with the other god-based religions? Claiming that no god exists is surely going to create an argument or division with a theistically minded person or cultural group...

... and sometimes I just don't see a lot of love from Christians.

Many people who claim to be Christians, even if they go to church and do all the religious things, may not be. Also, just because some people are Christians does not mean that they are sinless or that they won't fail or hurt you. By God's grace these won't happen, but we still live in the presence of sin. One day, when Jesus returns, sin will be purged and we’ll be perfectly in Christ’s image. I ask that you won't be put off by such people and instead look to the one who gave His life for you ... He is the one who you should look at. He not only talked the talk (about love, purity, compassion, etc) ... He walked the walk by demonstrating that He was real through His actions.

But aside from that there are other things which led me away..questions I have and I feel that rather than giving up I should try to look for answers.

While the people on this forum may be of some help, I suggest that you get in touch with reputable Christian organizations like Answers In Genesis <answersingenesis.org> (who deal with the origins things primarily), Got Questions Ministries <gotquestions.org> (apologetics), Christian Answers Network <christiananswers.net> (apologetics and archaeology), In Touch with Dr Charles Stanley <intouch.org> (who can answer some of your questions regarding Christianity), among countless others, to answer some questions that you may have.

1. Original sin...is it just me, or does it look like a set up? Here we have an all-knowing god and he creates the world and everything in it...including the Tree of Knowledge. He puts this tree right in the middle of the garden where the humans are. Thing is....he already *knows* what will happen. So why put something so dangerous around the people he loves when he knows what's going to happen?

It does a bit doesn't it?

But no, it is not. You see, God wanted to create people with free will, or the ability to choose to stay in relationship with Him or go their own way. You can’t have a relationship with anyone unless they choose to be in it with you. When Adam and Eve ate of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, in effect, they were saying to God that they wanted to decide truth for themselves and live a life without God. Even when God pronounced His righteous judgment on Adam and Eve (the sentence of death for their rebellion), He promised redemption with the first Messianic prophecy in Scripture. These prophecies were brought to fulfilment in the person of Jesus Christ about four thousand years later.

Interestingly enough, there is an aspect of God’s love and mercy when He pronounced judgment of death upon Adam and Eve. How so? Imagine living in this fallen state for all eternity, separated from God with people like Hitler, Stalin, and all the evil in the world! What a bleak future. But God loved us far too much for that. By placing upon us the curse of death, He provided a way that we could be restored back to Him, now through faith in Christ who paid the penalty of sin, who tasted that curse of death for all mankind.

2. This brings me onto another question. God is supposed to be all-knowing right? Which is the basis for my question above...however, after He didn't seem to know what had happened after the original sin. He had to ask Adam and Eve what they'd done. So is he all-knowing or not?

God knew that Adam and Eve would fall, and He had already determined that He would send His Son to die for your sins even before Adam and Eve sinned against God. The first chapter of Paul's letter to the church in Ephesus is some evidence of this foreknowledge (among many other passages):

Long ago, even before He made the world, God loved us and chose us in Christ to be holy and without fault in His eyes. His unchanging plan has always been to adopt us into His own family by bringing us to Himself through Jesus Christ. And this gave Him great pleasure. (Ephesians 1:4-5, NLT).

As for your second last question, I believe that God asked the question much like what earthly parents do when their child has done something bad and ask "What have you done?" I personally believe that it is about responsibility and getting them to engage in dialogue and own-up for their actions. There are many examples of this kind of stuff in Scripture. Of course God knows where we all are and what we have done and will do.

3. Also, what is sin? It seems to vary from Christian to Christian. For an example, some say getting drunk is a sin, some say it isn't. Some of those that say getting drunk is a sin, say that drinking but not getting drunk is ok. Others say that any drinking at all is a sin. Another example, some say tattoos are a sin...some say they're not. I can think of other examples but you get the point. There seems to be different opinions on what is a sin...so how do you know what is and what isn't?

What is sin? That's a good question. Sin is basically purposefully going off on our own way irrespective of God and His will (e.g. Romans 3:12). This is what Adam and Eve did in the Garden of Eden and this what all humanity has done since.

To determine what is and what is not a sin or right for a Christian to act, we need to turn to Scripture and the Bible says.

4. Why does god seem like two different gods? In the old testament, he seems very jealous and cruel. In new testament, he seems very loving and forgiving. Why the difference?

An article by Tektonics Apologetics Ministries called Does God Differ From The OT to NT? by Patrick Holding available at: <tektonics.org/gk/goddiff.html> answers your question far better than what I could ever hope to, so I’d like to direct you to that article.

5. Do you really believe that god killed loads of little children during the passover? Or that he killed loads of people when the Israelites were taking over the promised land? Or all the stuff he did to Job? If these things are true, doesn't that make god cruel and evil?

I believe that God as sovereign judge had the right to kill the first born, even if they were children. God showed the Egyptians His power and unloaded His perfect wrath against their sin and against their wickedness as He did on Sodom and Gomorrah and as He will on judgment day to those who do not have faith in Christ but want to keep holding onto their sins and thus deserve the punishment that goes with them.

If you read Scripture, God didn't do anything to Job. He allowed Satan to test Job in many ways to prove to Job and Satan Job's faith and complete trust in the LORD. But let's not stop here in the midst of Job's suffering, but let us travel on to the end of the book and we read that God abundantly blessed Job many times more than what Job had before the time of testing (see Job 42:12-17).

It is important to realise that for anything that Satan wanted to do, he had to go through God. Isn't that an example of a loving and gracious God? He never let Satan test Job more than what He knew Job could handle and, like many times in our lives, it's the hard times that turn out to be the most educational times in our lives.

If God were not good, then He wouldn't have blessed Job so much as He did. God is more concerned about our character than our comfort.

6. Hell. I'm an ex-christian and believe me I tried to believe in such a place but I can't do it. Now I know there are other theories, but lets just say that this whole "place of eternal torture" thing is true...how could a loving god create such a place? How can a god that preaches forgiveness, create such a place?

I take it that you obviously never read that hell was created for Satan and the fallen angels (also known as demons) and not initially for mankind...

Hell is actually God giving us what we ask for and an illustration of justice. You see, the apostle Paul in Romans 6:23 says, The wages of sin is death. Now, wages are something that you are paid for work rendered. In other words, you earn your wages. Because we have all repeatedly sinned, we have earned the penalty of death, which is eternal torment and punishment in a place called hell.

God has been gracious in providing a way out for you by having His Son take your sins and have God unload His wrath against sin upon the Lord Jesus. It is up to you whether or not you want to accept what Jesus had done for you.

Remember how I said that hell was actually God giving us what we ask for? Well, here is how: When we sin, we are actually telling God that we want to live life without Him and independent of His truth. Now, even though we die, our souls (or our conscious self) will live on because it is eternal. Obviously, if you want life without and independent of the eternal life giving source, namely God, the only natural alternative is eternal death and suffering.

So you cannot use the existence of hell against God. He has provided a way out for you, and who can you blame if you want take it? No one but yourself. In fact, God is being more than gracious by giving us time to come to repentance (e.g. 2 Peter 3:9) before He unloads His wrath and judgment against sinners who have rejected His Son and in doing so are holding onto their sins.
 
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