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It should be mentioned that three states have approved gay marriage by voter initiative or referendum. The tide is turning.
 
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Sorry if this doesn't have anything to do with the topic but I thought it did.

oftwominds-Charles Hugh Smith: The Devil's 2014 Missive to His Minions
Not that I disagree with many of his points but I hope no one thinks that Satan had anything to do with the text of the article.

There is a lot of evil in America. Much of which the people don't even see. There is evil in our politics, on both the liberal and conservative factions. There is evil in many of our churches, in our entertainment industry, and every where we look.

But, there is also good in every thing that I mentioned.
 
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What part of NO don't you understand?

I fully understand the word No. The point I keep trying to make, and which you keep ignoring, is that you need to stop claiming that your statements are "facts" if you are unwilling to offer proof, and stop saying that other are refusing to examine "evidence" if you refuse to provide it.

There are no mainstream reports of anything Biblical. Or of anything which might confirm Bible prophecy.

So there is no proof.

You just want ME to look it up, which I already have in the past, and post it and I'm telling you "no".

You simply don't get this--burden of proof rests with the affirmative. If you claim that something is a fact--as you did when you said that it is a "fact" that the number of earthquakes is increasing, it is up to you to prove it. Otherwise such statements are nothing more than opinion.

When you really care about something, you try to find it online. The fact that you keep pestering me to look it up for you says you just want to challenge my sources.

No, I simply want you to prove that what you are claiming is indeed fact. Your refusal to do so means that your statements are nothing more than opinion. Again, burden of proof rests with the affirmative.

Yours or someone's threat that they wouldn't believe anything I said was the threat I was speaking about.

That wasn't a threat. That was a simple statement of fact--I won't believe your claims unless you convince me that they are correct by offering credible evidence to support them. Otherwise your statements are nothing more than your opinion. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't turn your opinions into facts.

Enjoy the rest of your evening.

Already did. You enjoy your day.
 
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It's kind of like "The Screw Tape Letters" by C.S. Lewis. It's been a long time but I think in that book, Satan was teaching a young demon how to trick people.

I doubt anyone would think it really came from Satan. He'd never tell us what he is up to. It's a blog.

Where is there good in every thing that you mentioned? IMO, even their good has an evil purpose.
 
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You don't get it either. I don't care whether you believe me or not. You can go to the USGS and look at a map and see how many earthquakes are and have taken place in the last few minutes all over the world. You can look up the number of earthquakes every year since, perhaps, the 1990's. That alone is very slow for me. I don't succeed when I try to copy and paste anymore. So I have to write that address out and one small mistake can ruin the link. I'm just not going to be bothered when most of you are better at using computers than I am. You just want to badger me.

And...it doesn't matter whether or not I post proof. It's not going to change your opinion. Do you really expect me to think you'd say anything other than "It must be global warming or it's the fracking, etc."? You're not going to believe me either way because you have your own set liberal opinion. You follow the crowd, otherwise, you'd know that much of the birth pains are already happening. You'd be studying as much as you could to find out the truth about HAARP. You'd realize, as one California Congressman said that this "drought" in California (although it could be a sign of the times, IMO) is just a means of distraction from Obamacare and a means of getting Democratic votes in November. He explained that after WWII Californians built reservoirs and storage facilities for water so the state would always have healthy crops. But because of the liberals running the country, the water is being flushed into the Pacific to save those little lizard things (he said the name, which I can't remember), I believe it may have been a Nancy Pelosi thing in her constituency that the people wanted it. So now there is no water to save the crops. And John Kerry and the Obama administration is using the drought to convince people it's global warming. It's probably HAARP. Now how would you expect me to post an article which says that you have to look behind EVERY THING Obama says and find his ulterior purpose. Many of us know that is true, but the only things written about it are on alternative newsites because the mainstream refuses to tell the truth and they continually defend Obama.

So, unless you are open to at least looking at non-mainstream media, you'll continue to be led around by the nose until this country is just like China...or taken over by China.

You don't care about the truth. You just want me to post my sites so that you can criticize them and try to say they don't prove anything and then go about your blinded merry way.
 
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Where is there good in every thing that you mentioned? IMO, even their good has an evil purpose.
Yeah, I know that good being found in conservative media and politicians is very hard to find but a few of them really want to help the poor and those in need and are not about the love of money. A few, such a very few.

Even though the liberals and conservatives in the entertainment industry are evil in many ways, we can also see them spending time helping raise money for various charities.

Evil is easy to see in the world but good is also easy to see for one living in God's Holy Spirit.
 
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Okay, Yarddog.
 
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Are Earthquakes Really on the Increase?
Are Earthquakes Really on the Increase?


We continue to be asked by many people throughout the world if earthquakes are on the increase. Although it may seem that we are having more earthquakes, earthquakes of magnitude 7.0 or greater have remained fairly constant.
A partial explanation may lie in the fact that in the last twenty years, we have definitely had an increase in the number of earthquakes we have been able to locate each year. This is because of the tremendous increase in the number of seismograph stations in the world and the many improvements in global communications. In 1931, there were about 350 stations operating in the world; today, there are more than 8,000 stations and the data now comes in rapidly from these stations by electronic mail, internet and satellite. This increase in the number of stations and the more timely receipt of data has allowed us and other seismological centers to locate earthquakes more rapidly and to locate many small earthquakes which were undetected in earlier years. The NEIC now locates about 20,000 earthquakes each year or approximately 50 per day. Also, because of the improvements in communications and the increased interest in the environment and natural disasters, the public now learns about more earthquakes.
According to long-term records (since about 1900), we expect about 17 major earthquakes (7.0 - 7.9) and one great earthquake (8.0 or above) in any given year.



As far as the eclipses go, what good are they if they cannot be seen in Jerusalem? Only 1 of the lunar eclipses will be visible in Jerusalem and none of the solar eclipses will be seen from there.
 
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You see, I knew that you wouldn't even read the articles thoroughly. That is why I never waste my time posting links and I never will again. Don't anyone bother to ask for "proof" ever again.

If you had read the article, you would have seen that the small earthquakes are not counted for the simple reason that in earlier times they couldn't measure the strength of the small earthquakes. So this article only counted greater than 5.0, I believe. It even listed the number for each year from something like 1934 or something like that and it's obvious that they have increased. But mainstream doesn't want anyone to know that. It even says so in the article. You, of course, posted mainstream, which you always do. Sheep. That is what all of you are. Go ahead and lead each other off the cliff.


And in response to your response about the blood moons and eclipses, this is what you sound like: Well, what difference did it make to have Jesus die for our sins when very few really believe in Him? What difference did it make to send the Jews into exile in Babylon when many of them never returned? What difference does it make that the Word of God warns us of prophecies to be fulfilled when very few believe they will actually occur? Do you think God cares which people can see the blood moons and which can't? The Jews will be observing their holidays. Perhaps the lukewarm Christians will see it because it seems they are the ones who need to see God's power.
 
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You see, I knew that you wouldn't even read the articles thoroughly.
What makes you think that I didn't read the articles thoroughly? That I didn't agree with everything which they claimed?

That is why I never waste my time posting links and I never will again. Don't anyone bother to ask for "proof" ever again.
You didn't provide any proof. You provided evidence of what you believe is true but your sites didn't give proof. The sites which I gave provided some facts which showed that all of the claims that your sites gave are not entirely true or if true, such as the eclipses, do not apply to Biblical prophesy since the eclipses have nothing to do with Jerusalem.
It even listed the number for each year from something like 1934 or something like that and it's obvious that they have increased.
But the site which I gave showed that the increase is due to the increase in seismic detection stations and not due to an actual increase in earthquakes.
But mainstream doesn't want anyone to know that.
There is no reason for what you call "mainstream" not to want people to know facts. You expect people to accept the info that you give but you refuse to accept what others give you. Your sites don't have better information than scientific sites.
It even says so in the article.
What else would expect for an article which was wanting you to believe their information when they couldn't back it up.
You, of course, posted mainstream, which you always do.
And you posted lamestream.

Sheep. That is what all of you are.
Rat. That is what you are.
Go ahead and lead each other off the cliff.
Go ahead and follow Satan's Pied Piper like the rats.

And in response to your response about the blood moons and eclipses, this is what you sound like: Well, what difference did it make to have Jesus die for our sins when very few really believe in Him?
Hmmm. So you think that a lunar and solar eclipses which cannot be seen in the Jewish State of Israel somehow apply to Jewish prophesy? That is like saying some guy who called himself the Messiah of the Philippines took the place of our Lord Jesus Christ and you are praising his name.


The Jews will be observing their holidays.
But almost no Jew will see the eclipse, except some who live in the south Pacific. The Jews of Israel will look up, while they are observing their feast and see a bright full moon with absolutely no red tint and think, the Lord has blessed this wonderful evening.
 
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You see, I knew that you wouldn't even read the articles thoroughly.
BTW, did you read your article well enough to see that, what you condemn as a mainstream site, is cited by your article? And the site which your article also cites, also uses my site, the USGS as their reference. What then makes the info which I gave you, directly from the USGS mainstream or less factual than the ones you give, which pencil whip the USGS figures to make their claim?
 
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My article did not USE small earthquakes because they only have seismic detection stations nowadays. Do you get that? Forget about small
earthquakes. They don't count. My article used large earthquakes and proved that there are more.

I don't get your gibberish at the end, but it doesn't matter if Israel SEES the eclipses or blood moons. What matters is the date they fall on. Why don't you read about them and maybe you'll find out the truth.

To call me an animal which is a scavenger is inflammatory and against the rules. I am not a rat. Don't worry, Yarddog, I'm never going to post a link, ever again to any of you people who are "such nice Christians".
 
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My article did not USE small earthquakes because they only have seismic detection stations nowadays.
I got what your article was saying. But why did you attack me when all I did was post what the USGS stated. The same USGS where your article got some of its data? Did you actually read what the USGS stated?

Your article tried to claim that large earthquakes were on the rise while the USGS stated "Although it may seem that we are having more earthquakes, earthquakes of magnitude 7.0 or greater have remained fairly constant."

If what I posted was "mainstream" your article also used some data from the same "mainstream" source.

My article used large earthquakes and proved that there are more.
Your article proved none of the sorts. It claims that the USGS shows an increase but the graph of earthquakes at the USGS shows that, for the most part and except for a year or two earthquakes world wide remained fairly constant since 1900, when measuring earthquakes 8.0 or greater. There was a peak of 4 in 2004. This is also with a vastly higher number of seismic stations.Magnitude 8 and Greater Earthquakes Since 1900
I don't get your gibberish at the end, but it doesn't matter if Israel SEES the eclipses or blood moons.
And why not? The festivals are Jewish festivals which were celebrated in Israel during the OT period. The blood moon would be a symbol for the Jews.
What matters is the date they fall on.
So you get to tell God what matters about the festivals which he gave to the Jews to celebrate. They are not Christian holy days.

Why don't you read about them and maybe you'll find out the truth.
I don't really care what happens on a Jewish holy festival. I am a Christian.
To call me an animal which is a scavenger is inflammatory and against the rules.
What you wrote was far more inflammatory than what I wrote and if you actually read it, you would understand what the reference was about.
Pied Piper-

  • A person who offers others strong yet delusive enticements.
  • One, such as a leader, who makes irresponsible promises.
The Pied Piper of Hamelin lured the rats to the river to be drowned. I said that you were a rat, not a scavenger, but a follower of delusional temptations offered by those sites that you so love.



 
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The USGS article is lying. However, I have gone to that site myself on occasion and if you study it you can sometimes find that they contradict themselves. They just don't want the sheep to figure that out because they may panic. I don't really care what you think, Yarddog. I know that when someone hits your nerve, you go into unending criticism of that person and say things that are not true because you get so unhinged. It's not going to bother me at all.

The Blood Moons have happened three times in the last 500 yrs. if I recall correctly. In 1492, the Jews were expelled from Spain. Does it matter whether it was visible in Israel or Spain? History occurred. America also was discovered, which was a safe haven for Jews. It happened around 1948 when Israel became a state and it happened in 1967 when Israel regained Jerusalem as her capital. After the coming blood moons in 2014 and 2015, it will not happen again for 500yrs. So, a lot is usually happening with the Jews when these blood moons have occurred so they probably wouldn't be able to look for them if they could be seen in Israel. But maybe they did see them. I hope that war will not be one of the events of this year's Passover. You know what is strange though? Someone asked for proof of "signs in the sky" happening. The blood moons will occur and yet you're belittling it because it's on Jewish feasts, not Christian. Now Jesus foretold the signs in the sky and then when they are to appear, Christians reject them because they are on Jewish feasts??? I bet that makes Jesus feel good. The Jews are just as important to Jesus as you are, whether you want to believe that or not.

One of the problems with Catholicism is their lack of interest in the Jews and their holidays. You still think you are the "true" church but that is a discussion for another day. I'm talking about the Word of God which begins with the writings of Moses. If you care about God, you can't ignore the Jews and their history. You can't understand the New Testament if you don't understand the Old Testament. And if you'd read the Old Testament you wouldn't be saying things like "I don't care what happens on a Jewish holy festival. I'm Christian." You might as well say that you don't care where Christianity started. You apparently don't know the long line of ancestors of Jesus Christ and how people came to be in that ancestral line. The Old Testament is a fascinating love story between God and His people.

I am quite sure that the people on the sites I visit know a lot more than you do. You'd better check yourself because you are the one who is being deluded by the American government. Where does Scripture say to "believe" everything your government says. It doesn't because even in the earliest governments the people were not told the truth. We are just the masses. They only want our votes and even that doesn't really matter very much anymore. I study several very competent and knowledgeable Christians, so I'm confident in my sources. However, if I relied on mainstream, I'd be worried as you should be.
 
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The USGS article is lying.
Strong words for someone who provides an article which uses the figures from the USGS. That would mean that your article was lying as well.
I don't really care what you think, Yarddog.
Thank you because I could care less what you think of me. You obviously show that you have gone off the deep end. Scripture tells us that there will always be people like you who try to fill faithful Christians with fables so as to sway them away from our Lord Jesus.

I know that when someone hits your nerve, you go into unending criticism of that person and say things that are not true because you get so unhinged. It's not going to bother me at all.
I am completely calm because I know the facts. You only think that you know people but you continually show that is a false concept because you resort to bantering when you have been rightfully challenged.
The Blood Moons have happened three times in the last 500 yrs. if I recall correctly.
From the information that I have read, the moon is always reddish after a total eclipse. It is red because it is being illuminated by the sun's rays which have passed through the earth's atmosphere.

A Blood Moon or Hunter's Moon is the first full moon after the Harvest Moon.

It is also red, at times, just after it rises or sets. That has to do with the scattering of the light particles. In any case, the moon is never red. It just appears that way due to the light passing through our atmosphere.

So, there have been many many many red moons and Blood Moons.

One of the problems with Catholicism is their lack of interest in the Jews and their holidays.
Why stop at Catholicism? There is virtually no Christian Church which celebrates the Jewish festivals.

The Old Testament is a fascinating love story between God and His people.
I don't think that you understand that the Jewish festival pointed to Jesus and they were fulfilled thus they are not necessary to anyone who is in Christ.Of course, if you understood the OT and the NT would might know that.
 
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My article only used the USGS to point out that the USGS is wrong. Your article from the USGS points out that they are "often asked...". Why? Because what they say doesn't fit with what is happening. A grade school kid could figure that out.

The rest of your post is just gibberish. It is so sad to see you "explaining away" miracles in the sky, placed there sometimes as warnings, sometimes to let us know how valuable His chosen people are to God. You apparently don't believe that God speaks to us through signs in the sky, which Jesus prophesied. You are siding with the scientists who try to provide a scientific reason for it. It doesn't matter because God can use science since He created it. But Christians using science to debunk God and His works is very sad. You frequently take the side that is against God, Yarddog. You follow man's laws before God's and that is unscriptural. Daniel's life was in danger but he obeyed God first over man.

So I guess that since the Jews were temporarily blinded purposely by God, they should have stopped observing Passover, Yom Kippur and even Hanukah. No, that is the snobbish Christian, "we are perfect and you missed the boat" attitude toward Jews. Shame on you.
 
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My article only used the USGS to point out that the USGS is wrong.
You are so funny. You don't even read your own articles. The article that you provided used the data from the USGS to try and prove their point. Not to disprove the USGS. They also used data from Wiki and Dlindquist which also got their data from the USGS.

Your article from the USGS points out that they are "often asked...". Why? Because what they say doesn't fit with what is happening. A grade school kid could figure that out.
You'd better go back to school because those grade school kids are brighter than you.
The rest of your post is just gibberish.
Even a grade school kid could understand what you call gibberish. Go back to school.

It is so sad to see you "explaining away" miracles in the sky, placed there sometimes as warnings, sometimes to let us know how valuable His chosen people are to God.
I wasn't explaining away miracles in the sky. I wasn't giving the scientific reason for a natural occurrence. Here, read one of the mainstream sites. I'm sure that you will try and explain NASA away with that lame excuse.
NASA - Total Lunar Eclipse

You apparently don't believe that God speaks to us through signs in the sky, which Jesus prophesied.
I certainly do believe that God "can" speak to us through signs in nature but I don't believe that every natural occurrence is a sign. Especially when there isn't anything from scripture which backs it up. A lunar eclipse meant more to the Jews than solar eclipses because the calendar was based on the moon. The important part was that they had to be visible from Jerusalem.

A lunar eclipse which was only visible in another part of the world meant nothing to them.

As far as a red moon, or "blood" scripture says that the sun must be turned into darkness and the moon into blood before the Lord returns, so when you see a total eclipse of the sun and a total eclipse of the moon on the same day which effects Jerusalem, then you will impress me.


You are siding with the scientists who try to provide a scientific reason for it.
They are not trying to provide a scientific reason, they gave scientific fact as to why the moon appears to be red as the eclipse is waning.

It doesn't matter because God can use science since He created it.
Well, at least you finally said something correct.
But Christians using science to debunk God and His works is very sad.
Who is doing that?

You frequently take the side that is against God, Yarddog.
No, I always side with God but science hasn't disproved God in the slightest manner. Science gives us better understand to the wonders of God. The wonders of creation.
You really don't understand anything about people. You really don't understand scripture or Christianity. So sad.
 
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