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Half a million protestors vs millions of supporting viewers, which will A&E choose?They're not intolerant. They're a business and they don't want to lose any viewers over the rantings of an over-payed hillbilly.
I really don't understand the fascination with this show. But then again, I really don't understand anyone who can shoot a duck for no reason.
It depends more on the advertisers than the public. Advertisers have shied away from homophobia scandals in recent years. It could go either way.Half a million protestors vs millions of supporting viewers, which will A&E choose?
I agree that they can do as they wish just as those of us that dont agree with it can also not support them at all. Lose enough viewers and it is amazing how those views will change.Just like Hobby Lobby could have said "we don't support using birth control, but since we believe in freedom of conscience we're going to let our employees follow theirs". You seemed to have a different view of the role of tolerance in employer-employee relationships in that case, though, and supported the employer imposing their political and social views on their employees' health care choices.
Why the change of heart in this case? What happend to the whole employers can do whatever they want and employees can find a new job if they don't like it?
So the family has now released a statement. It seems they aren't even considering breaking ties with A&E even though the company stated that they proudly support the LGBT community. How strong can their beliefs be?
Actually they are, they are now in discussions with A&E and a few posts earlier I posted a .com to sign a petition in support of them.So the family has now released a statement. It seems they aren't even considering breaking ties with A&E even though the company stated that they proudly support the LGBT community. How strong can their beliefs be?
Because of the suspension. They haven't expressed that they are disappointed by the company's beliefs or that they wish to find another network.Actually they are, they are now in discussions with A&E
For all the people who are saying that "if he would have just been more tactful in what he said, it would have been fine and nothing would have happened." I say bull. Remember the Miss America contestant who was asked her opinion on gay marriage? All she said was that it wasn't for her and she didn't agree with it. And she's STILL trying to recover from the backlash. She was on the Amazing Race a few years ago and she immediately was hated and insulted, and throughout the entire season for what she said.
Adding: I want to make clear that while I feel A&E had every right to do what they did, I also feel like it was a coward's way out.
They stated that they were disappointed with the decision because they felt Phil was expressing his beliefs which were biblical based and that they could not see being able to continue to do the show without Phil. Sounds pretty clear to me but then again I am not on the other side of this issueBecause of the suspension. They haven't expressed that they are frustrated with the company's beliefs or that they wish to find another network.
They're upset with the way that the network handled the disagreement, not the fact that the network disagrees and openly supports the LGBT community.They stated that they were disappointed with the decision because they felt Phil was expressing his beliefs which were biblical based and that they could not see being able to continue to do the show without Phil. Sounds pretty clear to me but then again I am not on the other side of this issue
- See more at: 'Duck Dynasty' fans react to Robertson's hiatus | www.whio.comAsked his definition of sinful behavior by GQ, Robertson replied, "Start with homosexual behavior and just go from there."Then he continued, "Don't be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers — they won't inherit the kingdom of God. Don't deceive yourself. It's not right."
252 posts I came in late, so I have not read many posts,
Is this not the quote?
- See more at: 'Duck Dynasty' fans react to Robertson's hiatus | www.whio.com
He stated his beliefs, I see no attack on anyone. I see his defiition of sinners and their reward status.
Just because you state a Christian opinion on sin and one group in the list takes offense the network thinks they must respond?
Would adulterer's being upset, spawn a protest? Would anyone care?
How about the greedy?
Stating an opinion on an action or sin is not an attack on all the people.
In fact, he states later, he loves all people. Ie "he hates the sin, but loves the sinner."
The group in question, the ones that have been asking for tolerence for decades are now very intolerant.
The "Duck Dynasty" star, who was suspended by A&E indefinitely after comments he made in a GQ magazine interview comparing lesbian and gay relationships to bestiality, also remarked on the racism or lack thereof in the South
"I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person," the 67-year-old reality star said in the mag's January issue about pre-Civil-Rights South. "Not once."
"Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers," he explained. "I hoed cotton with them. I'm with the blacks, because we're white trash. We're going across the field … They're singing and happy."
In his recollection, the racism that reportedly occurred between the end of slavery in 1865 and the start of the Civil Rights Movement in the late 1940s just didn't appear to be in existence in the area where he grew up.
"I never heard one of them, one black person, say, 'I tell you what: These doggone white people' -- not a word!" he said. "Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues."
Lets see, his Jim Crow quotes,That is hardly the full quote. Also, he made some strong pro-Jim Crow statements.
Regardless, he had every right to say it, just as A&E had every right to act in the way they thought was best for their company.
Of course it is true but that doesnt seem to count but viewers tuning out not only the show but the network will speak volumesLets see, his Jim Crow quotes,
"I worked with blacks in the fields, they were happy, etc."
The "racist" statement concerning Jim Crow could have been worded better, but I fully understand his meaning.
AA were better during the JIm Crow period, not as US citizens but as a united strong family people. They had strong family, strong religious beliefs, they united against the hardships. When the man put them down they supported each other. They had the common voice we shall overcome, they had hope. Most fought against true racism.
Now, the family structure is destroyed, single mothers are the norm, fathers in the picture are rare. Black men are most commonly killed by black men. Drugs are rampant, poverty reigns supreme and most don't feel they can overcome it, they have little hope. Now many hide behind racism as an excuse not to excel, or even try.
Of course, it isn't a black man saying this so it is concidered racist even though most know it is true.
Lets see, his Jim Crow quotes,
"I worked with blacks in the fields, they were happy, etc."
The "racist" statement concerning Jim Crow could have been worded better, but I fully understand his meaning.
AA were better during the JIm Crow period, not as US citizens but as a united strong family people. They had strong family, strong religious beliefs, they united against the hardships. When the man put them down they supported each other. They had the common voice we shall overcome, they had hope. Most fought against true racism.
Now, the family structure is destroyed, single mothers are the norm, fathers in the picture are rare. Black men are most commonly killed by black men. Drugs are rampant, poverty reigns supreme and most don't feel they can overcome it, they have little hope. Now many hide behind racism as an excuse not to excel, or even try.
Of course, it isn't a black man saying this so it is concidered racist even though most know it is true.
Christians aren't without sin, they are forgiven. The man in question, I am sure knows he is a sinner.This situation is about sinners showing how tolerant they are by tolerating nonsinners who criticize them. The tail is wagging the dog. All will be forgiven and it will appear the sinners take the high moral ground.
And then there is this:
'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson on growing up in the South: 'I never saw the mistreatment of any black person' - NY Daily News
So... what the hell is his point? That because *he* didn't see racism happening or hear black compalining about it (which I highly doubt), therefore it never happened??
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