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FrankFaith said:Please direct your posts to my points (the OP) as opposed to bombarding my post with a load that twists everything I'm trying to say into a web of confusion masked by a smoke screen.
FrankFaith said:Ah-hem...
1. What can we safely infer from Jesus' healing ministry--and that He only did the will of the Father--only what He say the Father do? Nothing?!
...and...
2. The LABEL/SECTION HEADING "The Atonement" and whether it is a label/section heading of the scripture following it (written by man)--or a translation out of scripture itself.
Please direct your posts to my points (the OP) as opposed to bombarding my post with a load of bumblebee secretion that twists everything I'm trying to say into a web of confusion masked by a smoke screen.
Thank you for your kind cooperation.
Jim M said:Well, I took my valuable time and went back and re-read the OP. I still have more questions about what you are driving at. Okay, Ill admit to being dumb and I am sure the fault is all mine, but the whole thing is so tortuous that I am still having trouble understanding what your point is. So Ill just leave this thread to those who are smarter than me and say .
~Jim
TreeOfLife said:I'm confused FF. Way back I posted what I thought could be understood by these things, but only got a response from Jim, and he had misunderstood my post. If I was off track, please quote my post and show me what I am missing about what you are trying to say.
Thanks.
TreeOfLife said:Jesus set aside His divinity, walked the earth as a man, was filled with the Holy Spirit, and went about teaching the Kingdom of God, healing, raising the dead, and performing miracles.
Other than setting aside a divinity that I don't possess, what in the rest of that list am I told not to do?
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**Who came up with the label, "The Atonement", anyway? Was it man or is that actually scripture--I do not know--do you? It wouldn't surprise me if "The Atonement" is just another man-made section header inserted into scripture. I think I'll cease calling it "The Atonement" and start calling it "The Double Cure".
TreeOfLife said:FF,
Is this along the lines of what you are saying?
Jim M said:One more thing before I leave. It is good to see someoneon your side of the issue, after several weeks hashing out this PHIA issue, finally beginning to see the light of day and WANT TO separate healing from the atonement.
Grant it, its a puny admission, but a start.
~Jim
FrankFaith said:I agree with the first sentense but I'm not really sure what you're getting at as far as in answering my two points.
Zzub said:No, no, no, I wanna jump in too...
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