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A Different Perspective on Chromosome 2 Fusion

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I want to discuss an objection to the hypothesis of the fusion of ancestral chromosomes to form human chromosome 2, made by Jeffrey Tomkins in his article for Answers in Genesis. This post is the TL/DR version. The full explanation will follow in the second post.


The TL/DR version: Tomkins’s objection is that a functional and active gene, which is transcribed to mRNA (but not translated to protein) spans the fusion site with one part of the gene being on one side of the fusion site and one on the other. Obviously, that could not happen if the gene existed prior to the date of the putative fusion event, as you can’t have a gene with exons on different chromosomes. I have done a bit of work aligning the gene with similar sequences, and it appears that the relevant variant of the gene in question arose after the fusion event. So, not only is Tomkins’s objection to the fusion hypothesis explained, but this is an example of previously non-functional sequence being co-opted to create new functionality, something that creationists claim cannot happen.
 

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And this is the looong explanation:

It is now well known that the human chromosome 2, the longest chromosome in humans, arises from the end-to-end fusion of two ancestral chromosomes which in chimpanzees remain separate as chromosomes 2A and 2B. However, this conclusion has been challenged by the Young Earth Creationist Jeffrey Tomkins in an article which he wrote for Answers in Genesis. The article can be accessed here. Most of the points he raised in his analysis are easily rebutted but in researching one of them I found that the point he makes actually rebounds against him in a curious way, and ends up being evidence for evolution theory, and in particular for the generation of new functionality. I want to discuss these ideas in this thread.

Tomkins makes several points, but his central claim (encapsulated in the title of his article) is that the fusion site lies inside an active and functional gene and that there is evidence of transcription factor binding at the fusion site. How is it possible, Tomkins asks, that a gene can span the fusion site, since that would imply that different parts of the gene would lie on different chromosomes in the ancestral case. Furthermore, he claims that there is evidence for transcription factor binding at the fusion site itself. (This last point is a somewhat separate issue, but the fusion site has the expected DNA motifs in support of the fusion hypothesis)

The gene in question belongs to a family of genes known as DEAD/H-box helicase like genes (the helicases remodel DNA or RNA strands, for example by separating the two strands of DNA during transcription). The specific gene is DDX11L2 and it is one of several highly homologous copies of the gene found near the end caps of chromosomes in humans. In addition to the DDX11 gene itself, there are as many as 16-18 DDX-like genes in humans. DDX11L2 is an expressed pseudogene which means that it is transcribed to mRNA and spliced but is not translated to protein.

DDX11L2 is also a gene with alternative splices. What does this mean? A gene is made up of several exons (the coding part of the gene), separated by introns (sequences which do not code for proteins). Splicing is the process by which the introns are excised, and the exons are spliced together to form a single functional sequence. A gene which has alternative splices is one in which some parts of the gene are spliced into the sequence in some variants and not in others. For a protein coding gene this means that one gene can make several different proteins. Although DDX11L2 is not a protein coding gene, it can be transcribed to mRNA with two distinct alternatively spliced sequences. Let’s consider them.

DDX11L2 variant 2 is a three-exon transcript which spans 2549bp and which creates a 1668bp spliced product. Don’t take my word for it – the NCBI accession of this gene variant is NR_024005.2 so you can look it up yourself. DDX11L2 variant 2 does not cover the fusion site (the span of the transcript is 113,599,028 to 113,601,576 and the fusion site lies at, or close to 113,602, 932). So, this is not the variant that Tomkins claims spans the fusion site.

DDX11L2 variant 1 (NCBI accession NR_024004.1) is also a three-exon transcript where exon 3 consists of exons 2 and 3 of variant 2 (including the intron between variant 2’s exons 2 and 3) and a bit more besides; exon 2 is part of variant 2’s exon 1; and exon 1 lies some 2,300bp beyond exon 2. Variant 1 spans 4690bp and splices to 2158bp. This is the variant that is grist for Tomkins’ mill as the fusion site lies within this variant in the intron between exons 1 and 2.

Now Tomkins’ claim is only valid if it can be shown that DDX11L2 variant 1 is expected to have predated the fusion event. So, I did BLAST alignments on the two variants of the gene against the whole human genome. The BLAST tool compares a particular sequence against part or all of the its own genome or the genome of another species. The results were unmistakeable. Variant 2 (the variant which does not span the fusion site) aligns with multiple sequences in the human genome that lie on other human chromosomes. Take for example DDX11L1 which is on chromosome 1. It has the same three exons as the gene we are discussing, and the sequence similarity is 99%. Another example is DDX11L9 which lies on chromosome 15 with a sequence similarity of 98%. DDX11L10 lies on chromosome 16 and has 98% similarity. And so on. All these paralogous genes align with all three exons of variant 2 and are almost identical.

What of variant 1, the variant in which Tomkins claims the fusion site lies? Variant 1 also aligns with genes in the human genome, but, critically, there is no alignment with its exon 1. The alignment is restricted to its exons 2 and 3. Variant 1 also incorporates the intron between variant 2’s exons 2 and 3, and there is no alignment for this sequence in other genes either.

How can we interpret this? Variant 2 is clearly a member of a gene family which arises as a result of gene duplication. Much of that duplication must have pre-dated the chromosome fusion, because the other almost identical genes are located on the sub-telomeres of other chromosomes. DDX11L2 variant 2 lies near the fusion site on chromosome 2 in what was the sub-telomere of one of the ancestral chromosomes before they fused.

Exon 1 of variant 1, however, the variant which Tomkins claims spans the fusion site, has no homologous sequence in the human genome. It is clear then that variant 1 arose de novo after the fusion event, by incorporating the entire variant 2 sequence and adding the sequence of exon 1 which lies on the far side of the fusion site from the rest of the gene. (It also incorporates the intron between exons 2 and 3 of variant 2).

So, not only is Tomkins’s objection to the fusion hypothesis explained, but this is an example of previously non-functional sequence being co-opted to create new functionality, something that creationists claim cannot happen.
 
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Very nice. Have you looked to see whether exon 1 has a homologue in the chimpanzee genome?
If you align NR_024004.1 (DDX11L2 variant 1) with the chimpanzee genome you get alignments to exons 2 and 3 but not exon 1. There are fewer copies of DDX11L in the chimpanzee genome than the human genome, suggesting that the DDX11L family in humans mostly arose from duplications after the human/chimp lineage split. If you align just the 122bp of exon 1 against the chimp genome you get no highly similar sequences. You do get multiple hits of the entire or near-entire exon 1 with various chimp sequences with nucleotide identity in the mid-80%.

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If you align NR_024004.1 (DDX11L2 variant 1) with the chimpanzee genome you get alignments to exons 2 and 3 but not exon 1. There are fewer copies of DDX11L in the chimpanzee genome than the human genome, suggesting that the DDX11L family in humans mostly arose from duplications after the human/chimp lineage split. If you align just the 122bp of exon 1 against the chimp genome you get no highly similar sequences. You do get multiple hits of the entire or near-entire exon 1 with various chimp sequences with nucleotide identity in the mid-80%.
Thanks. I don't know what the state of the chimpanzee assembly is in the subtelomeres, though.
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Unfortunately, my sig always seems to be appropriate. Plus, quoting it in Greek is really pretentious, which is a plus.
 
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Thanks. I don't know what the state of the chimpanzee assembly is in the subtelomeres, though.
Nor do I but the two closest megablast hits for the whole gene are on chimp chromsome 12, at ~31kb so probably in the sub-telomere. The first is uncharacterised. Other megablast hits are to splice variants of chimp DDX11, which is also on chromosome 12 but not near the telomere.
 
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Nice post.


Handwaving away of this evidence in 3...2....1....

This thread has too much science in it. I predict creationists give it a wide berth.
 
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I'm not aware of that critique. I'd be interested in following that up if you can remember where you saw it.
I've seen it in relation to his placement of DDX11L. I'm sure I can find it later today.
 
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He used a buggy version of BLAST for his comparison of the human and chimpanzee genomes -- the one that said they were only 70% identical. See Apes and humans have different designs and here.

I don't know about his chromosome 2 work, though.
Thanks for that. There's no dispute over the location of DDX11L2. Variant 2 begins about 1kb (can't remember exactly and too lazy to check) from the fusion site, and variant 1 has an exon about 1kb on the other side of the fusion site. It lies on the complementary strand. See genome viewer below. The two variants of DDX11L2 are in the middle. The fusion site is at about 113,603kb.

 
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He used a buggy version of BLAST for his comparison of the human and chimpanzee genomes -- the one that said they were only 70% identical. See Apes and humans have different designs and here.

I don't know about his chromosome 2 work, though.

I seemed to recall analysis by others about both function and placement of DDX11L2, and I'm probably conflating his genome comparisons with chromosome 2 claims.

That's what I get for posting when I should have been sleeping.
 
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I want to discuss an objection to the hypothesis of the fusion of ancestral chromosomes to form human chromosome 2, made by Jeffrey Tomkins in his article for Answers in Genesis. This post is the TL/DR version. The full explanation will follow in the second post.


The TL/DR version: Tomkins’s objection is that a functional and active gene, which is transcribed to mRNA (but not translated to protein) spans the fusion site with one part of the gene being on one side of the fusion site and one on the other. Obviously, that could not happen if the gene existed prior to the date of the putative fusion event, as you can’t have a gene with exons on different chromosomes. I have done a bit of work aligning the gene with similar sequences, and it appears that the relevant variant of the gene in question arose after the fusion event. So, not only is Tomkins’s objection to the fusion hypothesis explained, but this is an example of previously non-functional sequence being co-opted to create new functionality, something that creationists claim cannot happen.

It's been a while since I got into something this technical but you really lost me in your explanation. I went ahead can checked out the Tompkins article, what I managed to pick up were these objections:
  • The DNA sequence features do not match evolutionary expectations, being surprisingly small in size and extremely degenerate
  • The putative fusion site is not characterized by the presence of satellite DNA, a hallmark of known fusion events in living mammals
  • Chimpanzee chromosome end caps are rich in a type of satellite DNA specific to chimpanzee sub-telomeric regions, including the ends of chromosomes 2A and 2B (Ventura et al. 2012). Yet none of this chimp end cap satDNA is located in the human genome, much less on chromosome 2 near the fusion site. (Alleged Human Chromosome 2 “Fusion Site” Encodes an Active DNA Binding Domain Inside a Complex and Highly Expressed Gene—Negating Fusion. AIG)
I'm still trying to sort out what DDX11L2 has to do with the fusion site. It was kind of interesting that you claim the DDX11L arose after the split, but I couldn't manage to find an issue there other it is somehow a unique sequence. Could you elaborate on those three points?
 
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It's been a while since I got into something this technical but you really lost me in your explanation.
OK - my fault. Tried to explain a complex issue as clearly as possible but obviously didn't quite succeed.
I went ahead can checked out the Tompkins article, what I managed to pick up were these objections:
None of these are central to Tomkins's critique. His main point is that there is transcribed gene that spans the fusion site and he thinks that can't happen if fusion did indeed occur (see the title of his piece). He's wrong, and I explained above why he's wrong in the loooong post above. However, he also makes the claims below, so they deserve a reply:
The DNA sequence features do not match evolutionary expectations, being surprisingly small in size and extremely degenerate
What are the "evolutionary expectations" for the length of the fossil telomeres proximal to the site of an end to end fusion? The fusion is unlikely to have occurred if the end caps of the ancestral chromosomes were protected with thousands of repeats of (TTAGGG)n. Shortened and degraded telomeres are just what you would expect in an end to end fusion.
The putative fusion site is not characterized by the presence of satellite DNA, a hallmark of known fusion events in living mammals
The references he gives are inadequate to demonstrate whether the presence of satellite DNA is indeed a "hallmark" of all known fusion events, as they (the references) are very restricted to individual species. And it is also the case that satellite DNA is not a characteristic of the end caps of human chromosomes in any case. It is well known that end to end fusions of human chromsomes occur if telomeres are severely shortened.
Chimpanzee chromosome end caps are rich in a type of satellite DNA specific to chimpanzee sub-telomeric regions, including the ends of chromosomes 2A and 2B (Ventura et al. 2012). Yet none of this chimp end cap satDNA is located in the human genome, much less on chromosome 2 near the fusion site. (Alleged Human Chromosome 2 “Fusion Site” Encodes an Active DNA Binding Domain Inside a Complex and Highly Expressed Gene—Negating Fusion. AIG)
Did you read that Ventura et al paper? The specific 32bp satellite DNA present in multiple repeats in the sub-telomeric region of chimpanzee and some gorilla chromosomes (and interstitially on a couple of chimp chromosomes) is not present at all on human (nor on orangutan) chromosomes, and Ventura et al develop a model that explains the evolution of the chimpanzee and gorilla specific subtelomeric end caps (the details of chimp and gorilla end caps are different from one another, particularly in the ordering of chromosome 2 and chromosome 10 duplicated segments in the end caps). I don't really see how Tomkins's claim is any obstacle to the fusion hypothesis.
I'm still trying to sort out what DDX11L2 has to do with the fusion site.
One splice variant of DDX11L2 spans the fusion site.
It was kind of interesting that you claim the DDX11L arose after the split, but I couldn't manage to find an issue there other it is somehow a unique sequence. Could you elaborate on those three points?
I never claimed that DDX11L arose after the split - in fact, the family clearly pre-dates the split as the DDX11L family has homologues in chimp (and other more distant species). What is clear is that the specific splice variant of DDX11L2 rose after the fusion event, as the exon on the far side of the fusion site has no homologues elsewhere in human or chimp.
 
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Nice job! The problem with people like Tomkins is that he seems to know that his target audience will not know enough about the subject matter to question his 'expertise', and detractors from outside the 'family' will be dismissed as doing the work of the Evil One. A win-win for a former scientist turned evangelist.

You may know, but there was a take-down of his % sequence similarity claims (alluded to by sfs already) on Reddit a few years ago. He made a brief appearance to defend himself, but all he did was claim everyone was wrong, called some names, and then he scampered off.
 
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Nice job! The problem with people like Tomkins is that he seems to know that his target audience will not know enough about the subject matter to question his 'expertise', and detractors from outside the 'family' will be dismissed as doing the work of the Evil One. A win-win for a former scientist turned evangelist.

You may know, but there was a take-down of his % sequence similarity claims (alluded to by sfs already) on Reddit a few years ago. He made a brief appearance to defend himself, but all he did was claim everyone was wrong, called some names, and then he scampered off.

u/Aceofspades25. It was a magnificent display of critical thinking versus ideology.
 
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