A complete savage

[RDouglas]

So as I sit here watching the Ultimate Fighter marathon on Spike TV (the channel for men) I'm reminded of the fact that as a guy, I am a complete and utter savage.

Intelligent? Polite? Gentle? Kindhearted? Deep thinking? Creative? All of these are words that have been used to describe me often.

It is also true that at heart I am a grunting, belching, knuckle-dragging, football loving, fight watching, girl ogling babboon!

(and that's the edited version).

To be clear, I don't apologize for that. I celebrate it. It's me. I'm a guy. If a lady doesn't like that, I understand and respect that, but it's the real me and I'm not the type to change myself to make someone like me.

But what do I look for in women, you ask? Girly girls to be sure. I see a lot of women who say they're "just one of the guys" or something of that sort. No disrespect if that's you, but I'm not looking to date "one of the guys" honestlly.

So I wonder for the ladies here, is a guy's testosterone inspired behavior something that you put up with, something you're indifferent to, or is it part of the attraction?

 

[intricatic]

You don't want to date "one of the guys"? Man, you've not been postmodernized enough.

 

[RDouglas]

My ex and I had an arrangement. I would work to appreciate the things she liked and she would do the same. I did my part on that. Her, honestly, not so much.

I'm perfectly capable of enjoying ballroom dancing, chick flicks, figure skating, soap operas, gymnastics and other things which generally appeal more to women.

I just also happen to enjoy watching scary movies, great football plays, things getting blown up and guys getting kicked in the head

A few months back, I went out with a woman who had a real issue with my being an Ultimate Fighting fan. From hence, the question.

 

[Beautiful Fireball]

For me, I think its part of the attraction, but I don't like it when it gets to the point of vulgarness or being disrespectful towards women. I don't like manly me who also feel the need to prove themselves. I just want someone who is comfortable with whoever they are and I don't want them to feel the need to edit all of their behavior when I am around.

I don't like super sensitive guys, I mean some sensitivity is great, but I don't want to have to be the masculine one in a relationship. Sure its fine if a guy expresses his emotions, but I don't like guys that are crying at the littlest thing or something like that, it just seems odd to me.

 

[Niels]

My ex and I had an arrangement. I would work to appreciate the things she liked and she would do the same. I did my part on that. Her, honestly, not so much.

I'm perfectly capable of enjoying ballroom dancing, chick flicks, figure skating, soap operas, gymnastics and other things which generally appeal more to women.

I just also happen to enjoy watching scary movies, great football plays, things getting blown up and guys getting kicked in the head

A few months back, I went out with a woman who had a real issue with my being an Ultimate Fighting fan. From hence, the question.

Ballroom dancing appeals more to women? Dude... you get to dance with the women. I've wanted to learn how to ballroom dance for the longest time. I couldn't do it in college because it was on the same night as jazz band practice and Intervarsity... but still!

 

[ImperialPhantom]

I ballroom dance at my college. pwned

I've actually met quite a few women lately who enjoy the UFC and MMA in general - something about two big, strong men battling it out, testosterone running high, seems to draw the women in. That is a very good thing for me, considering I'm a MMA fanatic myself.

 

[stormgade4]

I'd fight Chuck Liddell just to say I got my butt kicked by him.

 

[allthatisgone]

Which is why I hate guys.

Yes, wow, be proud.

 

[BranwenUerchLlyr]

Manliness and brute, testosterone induced feats of strength is definitely hot stuff. Case in point: Gerald Butler in 300 vs. Gerald Butler in Phantom of the Opera. I'll take Leodinas!

I'm a huge college football fan, huge fan of combat sports (do heavy weapons combat myself), and I think war epics make the best movies. Never do I try to "be one of the guys," I still try to maintain the "girly" factor when involved in all of these. Especially in my combat sport--I'd rather beat the guys than be one of them.

Can't say I'm into the chick flicks and ballroom dancing, though. I won't pretend to be what I'm not, and the feminine extreme is certainly something I'm not.

 

[KarrieTex]

Manliness and brute, testosterone induced feats of strength is definitely hot stuff. Case in point: Gerald Butler in 300 vs. Gerald Butler in Phantom of the Opera. I'll take Leodinas!

I'm a huge college football fan, huge fan of combat sports (do heavy weapons combat myself), and I think war epics make the best movies. Never do I try to "be one of the guys," I still try to maintain the "girly" factor when involved in all of these. Especially in my combat sport--I'd rather beat the guys than be one of them.

Can't say I'm into the chick flicks and ballroom dancing, though. I won't pretend to be what I'm not, and the feminine extreme is certainly something I'm not.

I hear you! Though I do like chick flicks, think ballroom dancing is lame.

However, I am one of those gals that has worn heels to a football game and can spew commentary at the refs with the best of the coaches.

This here girly girl is one of the guys.

 

[overit]

For me, I think its part of the attraction, but I don't like it when it gets to the point of vulgarness or being disrespectful towards women. I don't like manly me who also feel the need to prove themselves. I just want someone who is comfortable with whoever they are and I don't want them to feel the need to edit all of their behavior when I am around.

I don't like super sensitive guys, I mean some sensitivity is great, but I don't want to have to be the masculine one in a relationship. Sure its fine if a guy expresses his emotions, but I don't like guys that are crying at the littlest thing or something like that, it just seems odd to me.

Oh can I ever agree with that lol, been there done that. From the supersensitive (if I hear I have tears running down my cheeks one more time GRRRR) to the too vulgar (insensitive-constant cussing-spitting, etc) lol.

Personally, a fighter fan is just NOT my cup of tea, violence isn't period. Yeah, footbal, hockey, all testosterone ladden activities fine lol...but I cross the line at that. Oh, and hunting, I would not date someone that currently hunts. If they were in the past and have now dropped it, maybe lol.

That said, you should RDouglas always go for the ones that accept you completely as you are, and what you're about and not somebody who wants to change you. There is someone for everyone, and diff tastes abound as well as compatibility, acceptance and who likes what. More then enough people to go around I guess. So, stick with what you like and the right girl will be attracted to you and accept your passions.

 

[RDouglas]

In my case, I tend to celebrate the differences.

Trust me, I'm the last person to change myself. I pretty much made that decision when I was younger.

 

[ImperialPhantom]

Which is why I hate guys.

Yes, wow, be proud.

Therapy.

I hear you! Though I do like chick flicks, think ballroom dancing is lame.

However, I am one of those gals that has worn heels to a football game and can spew commentary at the refs with the best of the coaches.

This here girly girl is one of the guys.

There's one area where I'd draw the line... the girl cannot be louder than me when it comes to watching or talking sports. If she's yelling at the refs more than I am, that would make me cringe.

 

[covenantwmn]

John Eldredge's Wild at Heart sums up what i'm looking for in a man. Manly and insensitive are not synonymous.

 

[RDouglas]

John Eldredge's Wild at Heart sums up what i'm looking for in a man. Manly and insensitive are not synonymous.

Valid.

I think the essence of manliness is found in someone who is capable of being strong but also capable of being gentle, and wise enough to know the right situation for each.

 

[RDouglas]

I'd fight Chuck Liddell just to say I got my butt kicked by him.

I'd actually like to have Liddell do my taxes (he has an accounting degree, from Stanford if I remember correctly).

Then I'd like to be audited for that return, just so I could take him with me to the audit.

"This is my accountant. I'd like for you to tell him how he messed up."

 

[Gam3rG1rl4Chr1st]

For me, I have never tried to be one of the guys. I don't want guys to see me as just another "guy". Because as it's been said, what guy wants to go out with "one of the guys"? LOL.

However, with that said, I tend to fall into that category anyways because I'm usually hanging out with guys. I'm more comfortable in a room full of guys than I am in a room full of girls. I'm the kind of girl who likes video games (preferably a nice First-person-shooter on multiplayer where I can blow some stuff up hehe) and I like action movies. Heck, one of my favorite movies is Gladiator, with The Patriot following close behind. Sure, I enjoy the chick flicks too. (I'm a sucker for a romance. lol) But I also enjoy the more violent side of movies, as long as it doesn't cross the line. I don't like watching people get tortured for instance. (Hence the reason The Green Mile isn't on my favorite movie list) Fist-fights and shoot-outs and sword-fights and flying karate ninja stuff is cool. But just don't go too far. There is a line between needed violence (say the storyline) and unneeded violence (blood and guts just to have blood and guts).

But that doesn't mean I'm not a girl at heart. I can like those kinds of things and still be a girl. I'm not the kind of girl that adores shopping for shoes and purses.....I'm more the kind of girl that would rather go shopping for music or books or video games. heh. And rather than put on fake nails and make them pretty, I would rather have short nails so I can play my piano without hearing the "click" of nails on every key. I'm still a girl, just a different kind.

So yeah, getting back to the original question, I'd like a guy who likes that kind of stuff. Because I enjoy a lot of it myself. But I wouldn't want a guy that was so "manly" as to ignore me or to treat me as inferior and weak.

 

[RDouglas]

Nothing wrong with a girl liking traditionally male things like sports and video games. I'm attracted to femininity, but there's nothing about those things that are "unfeminine".

That's not what I'm referring to. It's when a girl doesn't like anything feminine or is one of those folks that hates being a woman that I get turned off.

 

[KarrieTex]

Therapy.


There's one area where I'd draw the line... the girl cannot be louder than me when it comes to watching or talking sports. If she's yelling at the refs more than I am, that would make me cringe.

BLAST!!! I am going to go cry now.

Thank goodness I would never date a BOY like you.