Why do we need to celebrate it at all? Is it not following the doctrines of men to arbtrarily do so? Why do we think God is honoured or glorified by our man made celebrations that were not commanded by Him?
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Yes, she did. She said use it to raise funds for the poor, etc. Placing monetary donation in the stead of decorations. She also talked about opening our homes to neighbors fior refreshments and games at that festive time of year as a witness, and what type of gifts(books, educational gifts) for children. She never, ever said not to celebrate as some would have us believe, but only gave alternatives to the unwise and over spending that was such a concern in those(and these) days.
Why do we need to celebrate it at all? Is it not following the doctrines of men to arbtrarily do so? Why do we think God is honoured or glorified by our man made celebrations that were not commanded by Him?
This is where Romans 14:4-6 comes in otherwise why have these verses? Because man does esteem different days outside of a commandment of God...
Romans 14:4-6 Who are you to judge anothers servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks.
Remember, God is glorifed by what we say, do and believe about a certain thing or day. If I keep the seventh day Sabbath holy and have a Bible fellowship and potluck on Sunday does that mean I'm worshiping the sun god on Sunday because somehow Sunday belings to him?
Let me rephase your question.
The answer is, yes...
That's fine. But you can't say that because something didn't happen as soon as you think it should have, that it wasn't from God.Without doing a timeline I don't know, but probably not 1700 years.
And God constantly sent prophets to try to correct them.
Like I said, I just find it interesting.
Here is a list of old testament prophets from Online Bible.org.
Seems like God had lots to say to Israel when they strayed.
The names of the Judge Prophets of the Old Testament are as follows:
Eli
Gideon
Elkanah
Samuel
The names of the King's Prophets of the Old Testament are as follows:
Nathan
Gad
Ahimelech
Abiathar
Shemaiah
Iddo
The names of the Prophets of Israel are as follows:
Ahijah
Micaiah
Beeri
Hosea
Amos
Jonah
Elijah
Elisha
Oded
The names of the Prophets of Judah are as follows:
Oded the Exhorter
Azariah
Hanani
Jehu
Jahaziel
Eliezer
Obadiah
Joel
Zechariah
Amoz
Isaiah
Zechariah
Micah
Nahum
Maaseiah
Neriah
Jeremiah
Baruch
Zephaniah
Habakkuk
Urijah
The names of the Captive Prophets are as follows:
Daniel
Ezekiel
Mordecai
Seraiah
The names of the Prophets of the Return are as follows:
Ezra
Haggai
Malachi
Nehemiah
Zechariah
Why do we need to celebrate it at all? Is it not following the doctrines of men to arbtrarily do so? Why do we think God is honoured or glorified by our man made celebrations that were not commanded by Him?
So why were the Israelites so severely punished for worshipping God at the base of Mt Sinai? They were directing their worship to God, so why was He so displeased??
Let's see if they were worshiping God.
Exod 32:23 For they said to me, Make us a god to go before us: as for this Moses, who took us up out of the land of Egypt, we have no idea what has come to him.
Aaron's guilty conscience even tried to make it sound like this golden calf just happened to come along.
Exod 32:24 Then I said to them, Whoever has any gold, let him take it off; so they gave it to me, and I put it in the fire, and this image of an ox came out.
I don't see why it's being made into such a big deal.
There are plenty of things that we celebrate that are man made traditions - Weddings, Graduations, Birthday's, etc. If one doesn't want to celebrate the holidays that's fine. Trying to turn it into an issue of allegiance to God or worship however, is going too far.
Don't the Sunday keepers say the same things? What's the big deal, we're worshipping God aren't we? It's fine if you want to keep Sabbath but to make it a salvational issue is going to far...
This is where Romans 14:4-6 comes in otherwise why have these verses? Because man does esteem different days outside of a commandment of God...
Romans 14:4-6 Who are you to judge anothers servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks.
Remember, God is glorifed by what we say, do and believe about a certain thing or day. If I keep the seventh day Sabbath holy and have a Bible fellowship and potluck on Sunday does that mean I'm worshiping the sun god on Sunday because somehow Sunday belings to him?
Indeed they do. But Sabbath isn't a relational issue.
God is herding sheep, and you never travel faster than the little's sheep legs can carry them.I find it interesting that God would "allow" His followers to, say, worship on the wrong day, tolerate infant baptism, etc, by not showing Christians this "light" until He was ready to do so. If these doctrines were essential, why wouldn't God give us a prophet or something to set all these things straight at once long before Ms. White came along?
K4c, you said in another thread that anything that comes out of Rome you will dig into and if it doesn't have Biblical backing then you will reject it ie; the Trinity issue. So why don't you do the same with the Roman catholic instituted holiday of Christ's Mass? Even just saying the words merry Christmas is dishonouring to Him... are we happily crucifying Him afresh every year on this day? Rome is...
What do you mean, Sabbath is not a relational issue? Remember ...Worship Him who created heaven and earth.. Sounds personal to me.Indeed they do. But Sabbath isn't a relational issue.
What do you mean, Sabbath is not a relational issue? Remember ...Worship Him who created heaven and earth.. Sounds personal to me.
I would disagree with you on that but none the less, is celebrating the holidays a relational issue?
I say let's take back the day from the devil and worship God on that day too and forget about what pagans understand the day to mean and let's make the day mean a time to fellowship, have cookouts and Bible studies in Christian fellowship for the devil has no power over us.
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