7th Day ADVENTISTS

[JRSut1000]

I'm not SDA, but I have been reading through some of the threads, particularly those about the Sabbath (which I also believe in the 7th day Sabbath). Anyways, my question has nothing to do with Shabbat, but rather this: What does adventist mean specifically pertaining to the SDA title?

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

I'm not SDA, but I have been reading through some of the threads, particularly those about the Sabbath (which I also believe in the 7th day Sabbath). Anyways, my question has nothing to do with Shabbat, but rather this: What does adventist mean specifically pertaining to the SDA title?

It refers to that fact that we are looking forward to His second Advent and are commisioned to proclaim the three angels' messege to the world.

 

[JRSut1000]

Three angels message? Can you explain more?

 

[Stryder06]

Three angels message? Can you explain more?

This refers to the following text found in Rev 14:

6And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
7Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
8And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
9And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

These messages are a final warning from God, to the world, before He executes Judgment and returns for His people. This is a message seldom proclaimed in its entirety, save from the SDA denomination. It is also another reason why wer receive such condemnation.

 

[JRSut1000]

Who does SDA believe is the beast? And in what way do most mainstream churches ignore this passage?

 

[JohnMarsten]

Who does SDA believe is the beast? And in what way do most mainstream churches ignore this passage?

tough question dude, the upcoming answers may surprise you...

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Who does SDA believe is the beast? And in what way do most mainstream churches ignore this passage?

The beast of revelation, the little horn of Daniel and the man of sin of Thess are all refering to the Papacy.

 

[k4c]

The beast of revelation, the little horn of Daniel and the man of sin of Thess are all refering to the Papacy.

I have learned that if people don't see this or refuse to see this it's because they are still an enemy of God. The beast has spoken pompous words against the Most High God. It has murdered millions for rejecting its false teachings such as doining away with the seventh day Sabbath of the Lord our God and telling us that God gives eternal life to the wicked so that He can burn them forever in a place called, hell.

 

[yedida]

I'll join in this conversation if that's okay?
To begin, I have no real head knowledge of nor personal experience with SDA - except - I was a part of an MJ fellowship who for several years were hosted by an SDA church.
From that pov, I ask or maybe discern, that except for the Sabbath observance and possibly your diet, you really just reflect Prostantism from the Reformation. You retain the RCC holidays of Christmas and Easter. Yes? You reject the Lord's Feast days except the Shabbat. Yes?
As for diet, I may be wrong, but every time we were invited to the SDAs services and food was brought in by SDA members, it was always only veggies and desserts, I never saw any meats, not once, not even fish. If you eat meats, do you observe the Biblical dietary ordinances?

 

[JohnMarsten]

I'll join in this conversation if that's okay?
To begin, I have no real head knowledge of nor personal experience with SDA - except - I was a part of an MJ fellowship who for several years were hosted by an SDA church.
From that pov, I ask or maybe discern, that except for the Sabbath observance and possibly your diet, you really just reflect Prostantism from the Reformation. You retain the RCC holidays of Christmas and Easter. Yes? You reject the Lord's Feast days except the Shabbat. Yes?
As for diet, I may be wrong, but every time we were invited to the SDAs services and food was brought in by SDA members, it was always only veggies and desserts, I never saw any meats, not once, not even fish. If you eat meats, do you observe the Biblical dietary ordinances?

actually SDAs dont keep xmas and easter...

as far as biblicals are concerned they 'only' keep the '7th day"...

and a light version of thanksgiving (if I am not too much mistaken)

I wished they were more radical with reference to feast and for example observe the new moons, an additional day off from work wouldnt do me no harm I guess...

 

[k4c]

I'll join in this conversation if that's okay?
To begin, I have no real head knowledge of nor personal experience with SDA - except - I was a part of an MJ fellowship who for several years were hosted by an SDA church.
From that pov, I ask or maybe discern, that except for the Sabbath observance and possibly your diet, you really just reflect Prostantism from the Reformation. You retain the RCC holidays of Christmas and Easter. Yes? You reject the Lord's Feast days except the Shabbat. Yes?
As for diet, I may be wrong, but every time we were invited to the SDAs services and food was brought in by SDA members, it was always only veggies and desserts, I never saw any meats, not once, not even fish. If you eat meats, do you observe the Biblical dietary ordinances?

We follow the life and teachings of Jesus.

 

[yedida]

actually SDAs dont keep xmas and easter...

as far as biblicals are concerned they 'only' keep the '7th day"...

and a light version of thanksgiving (if I am not too much mistaken)

I wished they were more radical with reference to feast and for example observe the new moons, an additional day off from work wouldnt do me no harm I guess...

You know, I don't really know where I got the impression that you guys celebrated those holidays, cos come to think about it, the 2 Christmases we had at that church, I don't recall seeing any decorations....hmmm....not sure why I just made that assumption. (Could be that that time was 4-6 years ago and just bad memory.) Excuse my presumptousness!
And thank you for your information.

 

[k4c]

You know, I don't really know where I got the impression that you guys celebrated those holidays, cos come to think about it, the 2 Christmases we had at that church, I don't recall seeing any decorations....hmmm....not sure why I just made that assumption. (Could be that that time was 4-6 years ago and just bad memory.) Excuse my presumptousness!
And thank you for your information.

To me, holidays ordained by man fall under Romans which states if one man esteems one day above another, that's his choice. Or if one man chooses to eat meat while another chooses to eat only vegetables that's his choice. None of these things are commanded by God so we should let our conscience be our guide in how and why we participate in these things.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

You know, I don't really know where I got the impression that you guys celebrated those holidays, cos come to think about it, the 2 Christmases we had at that church, I don't recall seeing any decorations....hmmm....not sure why I just made that assumption. (Could be that that time was 4-6 years ago and just bad memory.) Excuse my presumptousness!
And thank you for your information.

As with all things, the Adventist church is divided on the issue of easter and christmas. Some church's celebrate it, some don't.. some individual Adventists do, some don't. My personal conviction is, that celebrating a pagan holiday wrapped in a Christian wrapping is as grevious to God as just celebrating the pagan holiday.

As far as the festivals and statutes, Jesus was the anti typical fulfilment for what these typical examples pointed to. In my mind, to celebrate Passover today would be to take away from the ultimate sacrifice by the Lamb of God, that His blood is sufficient to mark the lintels of my heart against destruction.

The only instruction we are given from Jesus was to preform the foot washing ceremony and the communion meal...

 

[yedida]

Okay. Very interesting. Thanks for all the input.
Have a great week.

 

[k4c]

As with all things, the Adventist church is divided on the issue of easter and christmas. Some church's celebrate it, some don't.. some individual Adventists do, some don't. My personal conviction is, that celebrating a pagan holiday wrapped in a Christian wrapping is as grevious to God as just celebrating the pagan holiday.

As far as the festivals and statutes, Jesus was the anti typical fulfilment for what these typical examples pointed to. In my mind, to celebrate Passover today would be to take away from the ultimate sacrifice by the Lamb of God, that His blood is sufficient to mark the lintels of my heart against destruction.

The only instruction we are given from Jesus was to preform the foot washing ceremony and the communion meal...

I believe to have the freedom of conscience within the SDA on things not directly commanded by God is a streangth of the SDA, not a weakness.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

I believe to have the freedom of conscience within the SDA on things not directly commanded by God is a streangth of the SDA, not a weakness.

I see it a little different... my conscience/mind needs to be in accordance to the will of God and all of His people need to be of one accord as the apostles were at Pentecost. The freedom of choice that we are given, is whether we will choose life or destruction, God or this world, not how we will independently serve Him. If you read through the, Acts of the Apostles, you will see, in greater detail, the struggles the early churches faced because of division on 'non salvational' issues. These misunderstandings were the premise for the letters Paul wrote to the Corinthians, Thessalonians and Ephesians...

 

[k4c]

I see it a little different... my conscience/mind needs to be in accordance to the will of God and all of His people need to be of one accord as the apostles were at Pentecost. The freedom of choice that we are given, is whether we will choose life or destruction, God or this world, not how we will independently serve Him. If you read through the, Acts of the Apostles, you will see, in greater detail, the struggles the early churches faced because of division on 'non salvational' issues. These misunderstandings were the premise for the letters Paul wrote to the Corinthians, Thessalonians and Ephesians...

Do you believe we should all be unified vegetarians?

 

[k4c]

Who does SDA believe is the beast? And in what way do most mainstream churches ignore this passage?

Go here to my web site... http://www.looking4jesus.com/Endtime-Events.html

God Bless

 

[JRSut1000]

I hope my thread is not starting a debate as it's not my intention at all.

As an MJ, I honor the 7th day sabbath, don't do chistmas/easter, and believe that catholicism in some form could be the beast.

I'm sure there are many more differences than similarities, but it's nice to know that MJ's aren't the only ones with the above views.