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7,000+ Christian Clergy Agree With Evolution

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The "Clergy Letter Project" as of 7 Sept 2005 has collected the signatures of 7,449 Christian clergy who agree with the following statement:






Within the community of Christian believers there are areas of dispute and disagreement, including the proper way to interpret Holy Scripture. While virtually all Christians take the Bible seriously and hold it to be authoritative in matters of faith and practice, the overwhelming majority do not read the Bible literally, as they would a science textbook. Many of the beloved stories found in the Bible – the Creation, Adam and Eve, Noah and the ark – convey timeless truths about God, human beings, and the proper relationship between Creator and creation expressed in the only form capable of transmitting these truths from generation to generation. Religious truth is of a different order from scientific truth. Its purpose is not to convey scientific information but to transform hearts.










We the undersigned, Christian clergy from many different traditions, believe that the timeless truths of the Bible and the discoveries of modern science may comfortably coexist. We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth, one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests. To reject this truth or to treat it as “one theory among others” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children. We believe that among God’s good gifts are human minds capable of critical thought and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator. To argue that God’s loving plan of salvation for humanity precludes the full employment of the God-given faculty of reason is to attempt to limit God, an act of hubris. We urge school board members to preserve the integrity of the science curriculum by affirming the teaching of the theory of evolution as a core component of human knowledge. We ask that science remain science and that religion remain religion, two very different, but complementary, forms of truth.

The claim that evolution is a christian vs. atheist issue is simply not true, as shown by these signatures.

EBA: Forgot to include the source. http://www.uwosh.edu/colleges/cols/religion_science_collaboration.htm
 

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TheBigAl said:
If only creationism advocates knew this. Oh wait… they wouldn’t care.

yeah they would! they'd go all fire and brimstone on them, call them heathens and wonder what happened to the church.
 
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PulpitFiction said:
This seems like a really good rebuttal for "300 scientists believe in ID"

Project Steve is also fun. It is meant to be tongue and cheek, but it reveals the actual truth behind the claim that "scientists are abandoning evolution for ID".

The Steve-o-Meter is now up to 597.
 
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Loudmouth said:
The "Clergy Letter Project" as of 7 Sept 2005 has collected the signatures of 7,449 Christian clergy who agree with the following statement:








Within the community of Christian believers there are areas of dispute and disagreement, including the proper way to interpret Holy Scripture. While virtually all Christians take the Bible seriously and hold it to be authoritative in matters of faith and practice, the overwhelming majority do not read the Bible literally, as they would a science textbook. Many of the beloved stories found in the Bible – the Creation, Adam and Eve, Noah and the ark – convey timeless truths about God, human beings, and the proper relationship between Creator and creation expressed in the only form capable of transmitting these truths from generation to generation. Religious truth is of a different order from scientific truth. Its purpose is not to convey scientific information but to transform hearts.














We the undersigned, Christian clergy from many different traditions, believe that the timeless truths of the Bible and the discoveries of modern science may comfortably coexist. We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth, one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests. To reject this truth or to treat it as “one theory among others” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children. We believe that among God’s good gifts are human minds capable of critical thought and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator. To argue that God’s loving plan of salvation for humanity precludes the full employment of the God-given faculty of reason is to attempt to limit God, an act of hubris. We urge school board members to preserve the integrity of the science curriculum by affirming the teaching of the theory of evolution as a core component of human knowledge. We ask that science remain science and that religion remain religion, two very different, but complementary, forms of truth.

The claim that evolution is a christian vs. atheist issue is simply not true, as shown by these signatures.

EBA: Forgot to include the source. http://www.uwosh.edu/colleges/cols/religion_science_collaboration.htm

They didn't get that idea from the Bible. They got it from outside sources. They need to leave the ministry.
 
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Ilovecartoons said:
They didn't get that idea from the Bible. They got it from outside sources. They need to leave the ministry.
Well gee, why don't we remove our clergy's eyes, and ears while we're at it? Obviously if they're not allowed to get ideas from elsewhere we'd be better off if they just weren't able to see or hear. They could type their sermons out by touch, and they could be delivered to the congregations in one of those computerized voices! C'mon, if Hellen Keller could do it, so can our holy men.
 
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PulpitFiction said:
Sigh... Another link, to another creationist site filled with more creationists that have no understanding of evolution at all.

Instead of just saying "Evolution is a myth", why don't you post your problems with it. Before you do, however, be sure you have a real understanding of it. If not you will be mocked like dad and his ilk.

You have a great amount of blind faith in Evolution. There's no evidence for it. Look at Evidence against Evolution on Yahoo.
 
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Ilovecartoons said:
Besides, if your theory is supported by evidence, why do you resort to insults?

Evolution is supported by plenty of evidence, the same cannot be said for creationism. I would be glad to post some of it, but it is likely you would either not understand it, or just ignore it.

If you really want to read the evidence and refute it, then just say so.
 
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TheBigAl said:

Bwahahahahaha. Kent Hovind has ALREADY refutted some of those claims. The only reason there's no rebuttal is because most Creationists don't have time to refute it.

The truth is, that guy is using PRATTS.

One PRATT is his claim the magnetic field repolarizes. Hovind refuted that.

Another PRATT is that, by adding energy, you can defy the 2LoT. Hovind refuted THAT.
 
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This quote nicely states my feeling of creationism.


"Geology shows that fossils are of different ages. Paleontology shows a fossil sequence, the list of species represented changes through time. Taxonomy shows biological relationships among species. Evolution is the explanation that threads it all together. Creationism is the practice of squeezing one's eyes shut and wailing 'does not!'"
 
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Ilovecartoons said:
Bwahahahahaha. Kent Hovind has ALREADY refutted some of those claims. The only reason there's no rebuttal is because most Creationists don't have time to refute it.

The truth is, that guy is using PRATTS.

One PRATT is his claim the magnetic field repolarizes. Hovind refuted that.

Another PRATT is that, by adding energy, you can defy the 2LoT. Hovind refuted THAT.

Where are the refutals?
 
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PurchasedByChrist said:
it is just a theory....both have to be taken by faith...just give it a rest...who cares.
it chasing the wind

Well, given that the Theory of Evolution is backed by 150 years of scientific research and has made contributions to medicine, agriculture and other fields of applied biology, I would say it's pretty darned important. It's also not a matter of faith and it's a fact that evolution occurs.
 
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Ilovecartoons said:
Bwahahahahaha. Kent Hovind has ALREADY refutted some of those claims. The only reason there's no rebuttal is because most Creationists don't have time to refute it.

The truth is, that guy is using PRATTS.

One PRATT is his claim the magnetic field repolarizes. Hovind refuted that.

Another PRATT is that, by adding energy, you can defy the 2LoT. Hovind refuted THAT.

Hovind is a con artist who makes his livelihood selling creationist garbage to the ignorant masses. He can't get past his own strawman version of evolution and even AIG doesn't want anything to do with him. Defending him makes you look really bad even to other creationist which after looking at your other post says alot.

Please show us these refruted PRATTS you speak of.
 
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