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Well now, in this case they're crowded together to have their essays published on a creationist site. They're not standing up for the truth, if they were they wouldn't be dishonest so frequently. That's why many Christians, myself included, do not trust them one bit. God bless you as well.
Here's a fun resource. An online book consisting of 50 essays, each by a scientist with a PHD in their fields, discussing why they believe in a literal 6-day creation by God.
In Six Days
Sir Isaac Newton was maybe the greatest of all scientists. He agreed with Harry Potter that there was a "Philosopher's Stone." Do you also believe that there is a Philosopher's Stone?Here's a fun resource. An online book consisting of 50 essays, each by a scientist with a PHD in their fields, discussing why they believe in a literal 6-day creation by God.
In Six Days
Sir Isaac Newton was maybe the greatest of all scientists. He agreed with Harry Potter that there was a "Philosopher's Stone." Do you also believe that there is a Philosopher's Stone?
That he believed in a "philosopher's stone" simply means that he was a man of his time. Many alchemists of that time had similar beliefs .
Ya. In five hundred years time in the Lord tarries academics will look back and say 'remember that evolution theory people in the 20thc used to believe'.
Thank you for stating this clearly. It was the point I was trying to make, but you have said it much better.Sir Issac Newton was perhaps the greatest of all scientists of his time. That he believed in a "philosopher's stone" simply means that he was a man of his time. Many alchemists of that time had similar beliefs. That Newton's beliefs were correct on some things does not mean that we in these modern times should agree with him on everything.
I agree that it would be science that produces the new theory... and it will be the word of God (again) that stands when that theory fails as well.Perhaps. But if this happens it will be science and not religion that produces the new theory that replaces the TOE.
Could you say it had "failed"?I agree that it would be science that produces the new theory... and it will be the word of God (again) that stands when that theory fails as well.
"Evolution" is an ever-evolving term (there is macro-, micro-, divergent, convergent, etc, etc...) so to the extent that evolution states anything other than God created kinds (google baraminology if unfamiliar with the kind classification... generally tracks closely with what is conventionally labeled as "family"), and these created kinds were created on days 3, 5, and 6 of creation (approx 6-10k years ago), and these kinds are created with the ability to adapt to the environment (hence "multiply and fill the earth")... and that kind A does not become kind B and there is not a last universal common ancestor kind from which all other kinds evolved... anything from TOE contradicting these high-level truths from the word of God is a failure.Could you say it had "failed"?
Adaptation. Richard Lenski experiment demonstrated that after 50k+ generations of E.Coli the E.Coli was able to adapt to citrate and remained... E.Coli - didn't become a different bacteria... or a mouse holding a sword.You can not say this about the Theory of Evolution even if it is replaced by an improved theory in the future. The TOE is the basis of much of our modern medicine for fighting diseases such as HIV, cancer, and flu. It has been a huge success if you think staying alive is a good thing.
Everyone who is alive is so because God upholds them, He holds all things together - this is why he knows how many hairs our on their head, the hour, minute, and second of our death, etc... Not TOE. The success of modern medicine is not rooted in evolution, but the study of biological life, mechanisms, and processes... here in the present - has nothing to do at all with making up stories about dinosaurs becoming birds and fish becoming tetrapods and protozoa eventually becoming a human with trillions of deaths and billions of years before God created man and the origin sin.I am thinking that someone you love is probably alive today because of the TOE. Is that not a success?
You can not say this about the Theory of Evolution even if it is replaced by an improved theory in the future. The TOE is the basis of much of our modern medicine for fighting diseases such as HIV, cancer, and flu. It has been a huge success if you think staying alive is a good thing.
What does this have to do with fact that TOE is basis of much in modern medicine? And that this makes it a huge success?Hello There. But people were producing medicines well before the TOE was thought of! Luke in the NT was a physician! God Bless
In science there is no such thing as macro and micro evolution. This is nonsense made up by lying scammers like Kent Hovind to fleece the flock."Evolution" is an ever-evolving term (there is macro-, micro-, divergent, convergent, etc, etc...) so to the extent that evolution states anything other than God created kinds (google baraminology if unfamiliar with the kind classification... generally tracks closely with what is conventionally labeled as "family"), and these created kinds were created on days 3, 5, and 6 of creation (approx 6-10k years ago), and these kinds are created with the ability to adapt to the environment (hence "multiply and fill the earth")... and that kind A does not become kind B and there is not a last universal common ancestor kind from which all other kinds evolved... anything from TOE contradicting these high-level truths from the word of God is a failure.
Adaptation. Richard Lenski experiment demonstrated that after 50k+ generations of E.Coli the E.Coli was able to adapt to citrate and remained... E.Coli - didn't become a different bacteria... or a mouse holding a sword.
Everyone who is alive is so because God upholds them, He holds all things together - this is why he knows how many hairs our on their head, the hour, minute, and second of our death, etc... Not TOE. The success of modern medicine is not rooted in evolution, but the study of biological life, mechanisms, and processes... here in the present - has nothing to do at all with making up stories about dinosaurs becoming birds and fish becoming tetrapods and protozoa eventually becoming a human with trillions of deaths and billions of years before God created man and the origin sin.
Earth is not billions of years old. Many fields of science speculate billions of years. Name one geological, cosmological, or biological event that was ever witnessed and documented to span over even 10,000 years. None. If you didn't see it, you don't know it happened, hence it is "speculated." We can suppose deep time based upon current processes, but imagination will never meet truth where imagination contradicts the word of God. Also me saying the earth is not billions of years old is not me saying I know more about the fields of science and the people you listed, it is me saying God knows more, and I know what God's word says (see 1 Corinthians 3:19 for where our wisdom is in relation to God). Actually, you know what His word says too. So, why do you not believe it? Because some professor at a university told you otherwise? Please don't say you figured it out on your own... as if to imply you know more about God's creation than God Himself and what He has told us in His word. Check out Genesis 1, Exodus 20:11, and Exodus 31:17 again - the truth is hammered on again and again that creation was 6 days and God created life - they didn't evolve from some protozoa.In science there is no such thing as macro and micro evolution. This is nonsense made up by lying scammers like Kent Hovind to fleece the flock.
The earth is billions of years old. Many fields of science show this independently. You saying it is not is you saying you know more about physics than Albert Einstein, more about astronomy than Neil De Grasse Tyson, more about Biology than Dawkins. Does that seriously make sense to you?
Just as it was in the days of Noah, I'm sure, too.Every argument being made today for YEC is thoroughly debunked.
None. If you didn't see it, you don't know it happened, hence it is "speculated."
Crimes happen in the relative near term... and to this end, crimes from 10, 20, 30+ years ago are in fact become almost impossible to solve. What is most often used to solve crimes, as you point out, are eye witness accounts, interrogations, interviews etc... (you saw God's Not Dead 2, right?) As to creation there WAS an eye witness and He told us about it.This is a very poor methodology. According to you, we can never convict anyone of a crime unless there is actual witness for crime.
You're taking to an abstract level and is no longer within the realm of a reasonable analogy. It's one thing to have a crime at a party here in the present where people are seen coming and going, and another thing to speculate what happened literally billions of years ago.So even in middle of big party you can take person into bathroom. Close door. Kill them. Then walk out covered in blood, leaving dead body on floor. When police come to arrest you, you simply say:
"If you didn't see it, you don't know it happened. You are only speculating, so I am going home".
What you're saying, no, makes no sense. The better question is: why are you, as a Christian, unable to believe what your God plainly tells you in His word... and the basis for your rejecting this is the postulation of scientists who weren't there? You've read the book of Job, yes? Where were you when God laid the foundations of the earth? Nobody was there - just God. God told us what happened. In fact, forget about whether we need to be there or not... why don't you believe what God says? I asked you about what God's word says in post #34, and I'm asking you again. Rather than inventing up side analogies to debate, let's start with scripture. What's Genesis, Exodus, Jesus, Peter, Paul, and others say in the Bible? They all affirm the events of creation and Noah's flood as being real events.You sincerely think that makes sense? Even after all the witnesses say what they saw happen, admitting that they never saw knife go into ribs, that the police will not arrest you?
No.Crimes happen in the relative near term... and to this end, crimes from 10, 20, 30+ years ago are in fact become almost impossible to solve. What is most often used to solve crimes, as you point out, are eye witness accounts, interrogations, interviews etc... (you saw God's Not Dead 2, right?) As to creation there WAS an eye witness and He told us about it.
You're taking to an abstract level and is no longer within the realm of a reasonable analogy. It's one thing to have a crime at a party here in the present where people are seen coming and going, and another thing to speculate what happened literally billions of years ago.
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So you want to take a very literal viewpoint on on the bible. This is OK. But it leads to problems.What you're saying, no, makes no sense. The better question is: why are you, as a Christian, unable to believe what your God plainly tells you in His word... and the basis for your rejecting this is the postulation of scientists who weren't there? You've read the book of Job, yes? Where were you when God laid the foundations of the earth? Nobody was there - just God. God told us what happened. In fact, forget about whether we need to be there or not... why don't you believe what God says? I asked you about what God's word says in post #34, and I'm asking you again. Rather than inventing up side analogies to debate, let's start with scripture. What's Genesis, Exodus, Jesus, Peter, Paul, and others say in the Bible? They all affirm the events of creation and Noah's flood as being real events.
God is not trying to deceive us. We only deceive ourselves when we believe a lie over His word. This just affirms you believe the speculations and assumptions of man over the word of God. Evidence didn't tell you the world appears billions of years old, the interpretation of evidence taught to you based upon uniformitarian principles believed by Charles Lyell and others lead to this conclusion. Again, no written record affirming the events of billions of years, no case studies to compare against, just speculation and imagination.No.
I used your argument: If there is not an eye witness, you cannot say what happened. Evidence does not matter.
Because if evidence matters, then the world appears to be billions of years old. Unless you think God is trying to deceive us?
These are old and desperate attempts to discredit the inerrancy of God's word... usually by Bible skeptics who either don't believe in God or at least don't believe in the God of the Christian Bible - always an interesting and curious motivation when this is brought up by fellow Christians. The same erroneous logic used in producing these arguments are like-natured with accepting false ideas like billions of years and evolution - taking some things out of context, and taking a small piece of information and extrapolating it to an abstract level that takes one far beyond reality.So you want to take a very literal viewpoint on on the bible. This is OK. But it leads to problems.
For example: The bible states that the earth is flat. Do you believe that the earth is flat?
For example: The bible states there is a firmament above the earth. Do you believe there is a solid structure above the earth, that the stars are embedded in?
What does this have to do with fact that TOE is basis of much in modern medicine? And that this makes it a huge success?
And even if TOE is replace by a different theory, it will be science that finds that new theory, not religion.
There was medicine and medicial knowledge well before the TOE. Luke from the bible was a physician and knew zero about TOE.
Let's hope that the new science theory will not be like TOE then, a pack of lies
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