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Pinkpanther007 · Apr 8, 2007

icedragon101 said:
Have you Taken the POLL??

your vote counts you know. Let you voice be heard.

Dear Icedragon,

Should I require the services of a persistent advertiser, I will remember you.

BTW, I have taken the poll and let my voice be heard.

PS
Did I see Cyrilic writing under one of your emblems? Russian? What does it say?

FrenchPeas · Apr 8, 2007

truthmagnet · Apr 8, 2007

the poll is stupid.

my voice can't be heard..

this is a computer.

oh now you've gone and done it. i've got a headache. grrrr......

Pinkpanther007 · Apr 8, 2007

FrenchPeas said:

A hearty welcome to FrenchPeas! Now we have some of the main characters of the Veggietales! Nice! I have always loved the French Peas! The names may be mixed with Bob being the pickle and the tomato being Tomatoe but thats ok.

Adventist Dissident · Apr 8, 2007

Pinkpanther007 said:
Dear Icedragon,

Should I require the services of a persistent advertiser, I will remember you.

BTW, I have taken the poll and let my voice be heard.

PS
Did I see Cyrilic writing under one of your emblems? Russian? What does it say?

Hey finally someone uderstand what this is about. yes it is just advertising. most people don't get that. you should see how nutty the responses are. Hey thank you for taking the poll. it's not that big a deal. I just would like to know were everyone stands. see how the fourm is divided.
As far as the cyrilic. it is actually greek. I took it in college

are you new here? i havent see you around

Adventist Dissident · Apr 8, 2007

truthmagnet said:
the poll is stupid.

my voice can't be heard..

this is a computer.

oh now you've gone and done it. i've got a headache. grrrr......

relax it is just advertising. man you guy are crazy.

Adventist Dissident · Apr 8, 2007

FrenchPeas said:

welcome

Pinkpanther007 · Apr 8, 2007

truthmagnet said:
the poll is stupid.

my voice can't be heard..

this is a computer.

oh now you've gone and done it. i've got a headache. grrrr......

LOL! Dear Truthmagnet, Your voice has been heard!

truthmagnet · Apr 8, 2007

icedragon101 said:
Hey finally someone uderstand what this is about. yes it is just advertising. most people don't get that. you should see how nutty the responses are. Hey thank you for taking the poll. it's not that big a deal. I just would like to know were everyone stands. see how the fourm is divided.
As far as the cyrilic. it is actually greek. I took it in college

are you new here? i havent see you around

did you say it was "geek" ?

Pinkpanther007 · Apr 8, 2007

icedragon101 said:
Hey finally someone uderstand what this is about. yes it is just advertising. most people don't get that. you should see how nutty the responses are. Hey thank you for taking the poll. it's not that big a deal. I just would like to know were everyone stands. see how the fourm is divided.
As far as the cyrilic. it is actually greek. I took it in college

are you new here? i havent see you around

My apologies for the mistake in languages. I don't speak Greek or Russian. So what does the Greek statement say?

truthmagnet · Apr 8, 2007

Pinkpanther007 said:
My apologies for the mistake in languages. I don't speak Greek or Russian. So what does the Greek statement say?

it says "it's late and time for all good soldiers to go to bed"!
g'nite all.

Adventist Dissident · Apr 8, 2007

truthmagnet said:
did you say it was "geek" ?

greek some say you have to be a geek to know greek but that is another issue.

Adventist Dissident · Apr 8, 2007

I would like to thank the following for voting

awesumtenor, DarylFawcett, icedragon101, noahswife, Pickle, Pinkpanther007, RC_NewProtestants, Rosyroi, sonshineonme Jimlarmore StormyOne

to view the poll result click on the number it will bring up all who voted in poll

Again thank-you

P.S the poll will not tell us anything new. it will just orginaze it so we know erhe everyone stands.

Pickle · Apr 8, 2007

djconklin said:
Over 5 years, that's only a quarter a mil a year. For a TV ministry that sounds cheap to me. I'd figure it would be way more expensive than that.

dj,

Maybe you didn't catch the significance of the figures. From 1985 through 2000, the inventory went from $0 to $88,000. Then from 2000 to 2005 it went from $88,000 to $1.4 million. That means they have to have $1.4 million in inventory on Dec. 31, 2005.

Based on the information I have, there is something wrong with these figures.

Pickle · Apr 8, 2007

Peach45 said:
Well it sounds exactly like what someone who knew what censuring involves, should have done, if that was the case.

What evidence do you have that he was just being mean to her, or that he was taking action without any authority or call to??

How come you didn't mention that Danny had barred her from speaking in her own defense at the church trial? We have that in writing. If she was going to give her side of the story, she had to pay back all the money she had gotten in Danny's unethical, one-sided, downright wrong Linda's-separation-from-3ABN agreement.

That agreement prohibited her from saying anything critical about her ex-husband at a church business meeting, but it did not prohibit him from saying anything critical of his ex-wife at a church business meeting. That's just plain wrong.

tall73 · Apr 8, 2007

What I have not heard is that there was a church buisiness meeting. Was there one?

If she was going to be censured they should have done that, transfer or not. And what kind of action is only learned of when you go to transfer? Action should be upfront, with her there to defend herself.

As to the pastor telling her what she can or cannot do, that is not official church discipline. The pastor is not allowed to do discipline on his own. He must go before the whole church. This is only after efforts to work out things behind the scenes, but even the church business session should be with the goal of reconcilation ("if he does not listen to the church").

So the church never dealt with her, Danny won't present the evidence against her--for those who say she did it--why?

steffanphilip · Apr 8, 2007

truthmagnet said:
SP, you need to get one thing very straight, no matter which side you are on. that one thing is that no one is slamming the 3ABN ministry. no one wants to tear down, destroy or eradicate the 3ABN ministry. this is about INDIVIDUALS ! if you care for the 3ABN ministry, then try to remember to separate the two. TY

But when you tear down the INDIVIDAULS that are doing the ministry, you tear down the MINISTRY.

Surely, you are aware of the letter-writing/telephone calls campaigns being urged and done by these people who want 3ABN appearances at various churches cancelled?

Would you like me to point you to the exact posts where they have urged people to call their church and try and cancel 3ABN meetings?

So how do you advocate the replacement of EVERY person in leadership at 3ABN without tearing down the ministry?

steffanphilip · Apr 8, 2007

Once again - long, convoluted reply which evades the point of your methods. Confuse the issue with WWJD and Bystander when it does not even address the question.

As far as BSDA goes, there is such a thing as Google that allows me to follow your trail of postings.

As I pointed out the writer says, "I have given up even communicating with Pickle on the talk page. I just revert his edits to the article at this stage. In true conspiracy theory style Pickle refuses to supply evidence for his claims, just demands you disprove his unevidenced claims."

steffanphilip · Apr 8, 2007

Pinkpanther007 said:
I can't speak for Rosie either, but I can say that there are people who are so afraid of what Gailon Joy and Bob Pickle have to say that they would like nothing more than to shut them down. Are you that afraid of them, tomatoe? How about you, Steffan? Are you so afraid of Joy and Pickle that you can't wait to see them shut down? Does what they say frighten you to the point that you have to see them go away?

Strange way to show my fear! If I was afraid of Gailon or Pickle, I wouldn't have spoken up in the first place. It's only when they started taking their words out of the one-sided BSDA forum and bringing it forward into this forum, that I had to speak up.

Pickle · Apr 8, 2007

NoahsWife raised the question of how similar I think it was tomatoe's suggestion was to the original ground rules suggested during the ASI negotiations.

I first thought of how tomatoe was suggesting that only conclusions be released, not evidence when I read NW's comment, but have since thought of another similarity: The ones with questions can't ask the questions. That was also part of the suggested ASI ground rules: Each side could suggest questions to the panel, but they could not ask questions themselves.

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