Would you support abortion under special circumstances?

[Nazarene77]

Ok, this is the third time I've posted this since the last time I posted this I accidentally double posted and got them both deleted, but here goes.

Anyway, just want to know what people think. Leave your comments here.

EDIT: Personally, I think that if the life of the mother were in danger, then abortion should be allowed. But I really think it should be up to the mother to make that judgement and no one else, unless of course there is a 100% chance that both the mother and the baby will die. It would be suicide to continue that pregnancy--an even worser sin. It is better to lose one life than to lose them both.

 

[Beckijhn]

I would only support it if the mother's life were in danger. And only then because our medical technology is not able to save both lives.

 

[MatanzA]

Only if the mothers life is in danger..

 

[Didymus]

only if mother was in danger--my third pregnecy ended in amiscarriage and i saw the fetus--it was about 12 weeks old and was a tiny little human without a doubt.
I feel in the case of incest or rape the mother could put the baby up for adoption but having never gone through those expierences i don t really know what i would do. I did not really want a third child and was very upset that i was pregent but abortion was only a fleeting thought.

 

[mistertee49]

Maybe if the mothers life was in danger. But I still think in the eyes of God it is wrong and woe be the mother who does it. They will have to anwer for it at judgement day.

 

[Ryder]

I voted other, if birth and c-section would result in the death of fetus and mother, than I'd have few problems with abortion, one alive instead of both dead. But in cases where only the mother is at risk it becomes more tricky, 'cause she could sacrifice/risk herself for the child... Tough stuff.

 

[SBfaithful]

Never is abortion an option. IMO

 

[Jedi]

Maybe if the mothers life was in danger. But I still think in the eyes of God it is wrong and woe be the mother who does it. They will have to anwer for it at judgement day.

I understand this, however, I would face God with confidence on judgment day and answer for my stance if I wanted my wife to have an abortion if her life were in danger because of her pregnancy. I would answer to Him that I was looking out for the wife he had given me, and would rather lose one life than two. I would then add that unless He spoke to me in a very convincing manner saying that He didn't want me to protect my wife in this way, I wasn't going to risk it.

This is also not to mention that until a certain stage in child development, the unborn child can't feel a thing, since the nervous system hasn't been completely developed yet. This means it would be a painless death for the child, versus a painful death for the mother.

 

[greenapes]

You left out an option: Nothing justifies the murder of an innocent child.

 

Check out rockforlife.org

 

[JillLars]

I also think that abortion would be permissable only if the life of the mother was in danger. I have never been in that situation, so I don't know what it would be like to make that choice...but hopefully God would guide me in making the right choice or forgive me if I made the wrong one. Jedi, I like your idea of protecting your wife. Great point.

 

[* kittie *]

how about "none"?

i didn't vote.

 

[Dr. Jeep]

Only if the mother was in grave danger.

There would also be lots of praying to make the right decision.

 

[Francie]

in no situation is it right, it is still murder no man or woman has the right to murder and abortiobn is murder!

 

[Annabel Lee]

17th March 2003 at 06:09 PM greenapes said this in Post #9

You left out an option: Nothing justifies the murder of an innocent child.

 

Check out rockforlife.org

There are certain types of pregnancies where the death of the mother and child is a 100% certainty. Not 50% or not 90% but 100%.

That would certainly justify terminating the pregnacy.

 

[Gerry]

I have thus far been unable to find anything in God's Written Word that justifies abortion. Women have died in childbirth since the begining of time and I suppose they always will. That is a sad fact of life. Nevertheless, I have not found it listed as justification for abortion.

My heart is sad that anyone dies this way and I grieve for those Mothers who have comitted this horror. I know one, personally who is a Christian now and each year on what was to have been her baby's birthday, she grieves uncontrollably. Only her faith in Jesus and His forgiveness gets her through it at all.

The consequences of abortion are endless pain, and the price is just too high.

 

[stillsmallvoice]

Hi all!

I offer a recycled post:

I (an orthodox Jew) quote from a book I have on the (orthodox!) Jewish approach to various medical issues by Rabbi Dr. J. David Bleich:

"Judaism regards the killing of an unborn child to be a serious moral offense. An abortion may be performed only for the gravest of reasons, and even then, only subsequent to consultation with a competent [orthodox] rabbinic authority...The life of the mother takes precedence over that of the unborn child. Thus, when 'hard travail' of labor endangers the life of the mother, an embryotomy may be performed in order to save her...The fetus' right to life is subordinate to that of the mother, and hence the life of the unborn fetus may be sacrificed in order to save her...The performance of an abortion may be warranted for purposes of preserving maternal health as well as maternal life. No [orthodox rabbinic] authority permits an abortion which is non-therapeutic in nature. There are early rabbinic authorities who expressly declare that ritual laws such as Sabbath observance and fasting on Yom Kippur are suspended in order to preserve the life of the fetus. Suspension of such significant religious observances is clearly incompatible with indiscriminate license to destroy fetal life. Both the argument that a prospective mother may seek an abortion for any reason because denial of this right would interfere with her 'right to privacy' as well as the argument that the decision to abort is entirely a matter between a woman and her physician must be rejected as incompatible with Jewish teaching...Judaism teaches that man does not enjoy unrestricted proprietary rights with regard to his own body, much less so with regard to the body of an unborn child...The Talmud teaches that embryo is endowed with a soul at conception. Moreover, the Sages taught: 'There are 3 partners in the generation of man - the father, the mother and God.' Accordingly, a decision to terminate pregnancy is not one which is within the exclusive domain of the mother...It is well established that the quality of life to be anticipated if the fetus is carried to term is not, in itself, a sufficient reason for the performance of an abortion...Physical or mental abnormalities do not affect the human status of the individual or his right to life...Most authorities rule that termination of pregnancy resulting from rape is not permissible. However, the immediate post-coital contraceptive measures undertaken prior to fertilization of the ovum present a different but complex Jewish-law question. Immediate removal of the sperm by means of a suction device...would be warranted."

Thus, normative (i.e. orthodox) Judaism absolutely rejects abortion as a means of birth control. I certainly object to government funding for abortions that are non-therapeutic in nature.

However, we would completely reject vigilante violence against doctors, nurses, etc. who are involved in abortions (as well as inciting to violence against them) & to bombing clinics. Opposition to non-therapeutic abortions must be carried out within the bounds of the law.

Questions?

Be well!

ssv

 

[Annabel Lee]

A thread from December on abortion.

http://www.christianforums.com/threads/29336.html

 

[GraftMeIn]

I would rather die than have to live with killing an unborn child.

 

[Annabel Lee]

Today at 12:55 PM GraftMeIn said this in Post #18

I would rather die than have to live with killing an unborn child.

Fine. I said the same thing at first to my doctor when he broke the news to me.

I'm truly amazed at the ignorance of some of the posters on such a complicated issue.

 

[seebs]

Today at 02:28 PM Gerry said this in Post #15
The consequences of abortion are endless pain, and the price is just too high.

Huh, and here I was thinking the only unforgivable sin was blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.