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3 year old son out of control !!! Help!!!

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I am having such a time with my 3 year old son. I feel like I have no control over him. I may as well be talking to myself as to tell him something. I tell him not to do something, he says OK, and does it 2 breaths later. He is just unruly at church, running all over the sanctuary (we have a wonderful praise and worship team and it just gets him fired up, lol). In stores, he takes off and leaves. Im just at wits end. Nothing seems to work. We do believe in spanking, but in his case, doesn't work. He'll do something, look at you and ask "You gonna spank me now??" Ive tried taking things, doesn't seem to mind. Staying in his room, doesn't care. It's not that he's being mean, hes just sooooo willful and defiant. But he's also such a sweet and loving child. He loves to give hugs and constantly tells you he loves you. A few weeks ago I had stitches removed and he asked to get on the docs table with me. I picked him up and he held my hand and rubbed my back until the doc was done. But I feel he has no respect for me as a parent. I realize he's 3, but my dd who's now 6 was nothing like this. Sure she tried me, but nothing like this. Help!!!!!! :eek:
 

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I have a son who's nearly 3, so can understand what you mean a little bit. I can't really offer much advice, my son is incredibly affectionate, climbs all over me to give me hugs etc. But is so full on and enthusiastic about everything and can be a handful. I have read a good book by James Dobson, called Raising boys, which has helped me a bit.
 
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I have a 3 year old who is a WILD CHILD, and if he were born in most other homes, he'd probably be in Juvenile Hall by now... ^_^

We have two older daughters, who were certainly full of zest and had their particular challenges, but this boy just came in and knocked me on my face! Here I thought I had basic parenting down, and then this child comes along and pretty much runs me ragged before he even hits two years old!!!!!!!!!!



When he was newly 2, and I was about to go insane with him already, I cried out to the Lord for help--I just didn't know what to do with him, and I was honestly to the point where I barely even LIKED him anymore, he was so much work--and I remember hearing very clearly: "Just treat him like a little bear cub." I know that sounds crazy, but that's what I heard!

So...I have ever since...and he has turned into a different little boy altogether! Still full of spitfire and still going a mile a minute, and I still can't give him an inch (or he'll take 500 miles) but his heart is now so WITH me...and my love for him is DEEP.

What does 'treat him like a little bear cub' mean?

To me, it simply meant to get on the floor with him, wrestle him, chase him, growl at him on all fours and try to tickle him throughout the house, etc... It also includes having pride like a momma bear--heehee--making a big deal out of his strength, his skills, on ANYTHING "manly" he might be displaying (including his protection of his sisters, his "good manners like Daddy," his ANYTHING (like, "wow, you are fast at running--amazing!"), etc...

The swaggering around my house is pretty incredible, let me tell you ^_^ , and he just BEAMS with joy everytime his momma comments on his manly talents...


I kid you not, literally the DAY I started acting like this toward him, he totally changed. His face was just filled with delight and I've had a little "love slave" ever since, who still challenges his mommy something fierce sometimes (and she still wins, too, though sometimes it takes her a while!), but who loves her and swears he'll "protect ya from all dah bad guys, momma, cuz yer soooo sweet and you're my bestest momma," which is generally followed by a big sloppy smooch on the cheek. :blush:



I know God gave him this fiery active personality for a reason--a big reason--and I'm greatful for it...but I'm also equally greatful that He gave me the tools to survive his childhood! HA!

Hope this helps some!

Love in Him,
Molly
 
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Thanks to you both!!!! Alaskamolly, I like that bear cub thing, it brought tears to my eyes. He does wear me out, but he's sooooo loving. Most days they balance out, but others I just wanna run out of the house screaming. I too have been reminded by God Josh is just the way he is meant to be. That is, the energy and wild side he has. God can harness that for some powerful use in his lifetime. But that doesn't mean He sent me a child that will put me in the loony bin, lol. I just have to find a way to connect with him like you and your bear cub approach. That sounds just like something God would say :) I again thank you both. Oh, I also have been thinking about getting Dr. Dobson's book about Bringing Up Boys and The Strong Willed Child. I think they both fit here :eek: !
 
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and don't forget the value of a "hand-holder" while shopping. It is a velcro wrist bracelet that attaches by a flexi-cord (like a phone cord) to a wrist bracelet. It kept my wild child out of traffic, out of the next aisle, out of the next store. I got it after we lost him at 3 at the city aquarium. I stopped to look at some paintings. One minute he was next to me, the next he was long gone. I was in a panic for 20 minutes- he had gone ahead, and his answer was, "but I thought we were going to see the fishys" I bought the fisher-price thingy and never lost him again.
 
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The place my boys have learned the most how to respect me, is through my husband. He tells them to treat me and their sister like ladies. They hold doors for us, and if one of them forgets the other reminds and if both forget than daddy reminds both of them. They treat us like ladies and show me respect. The flip side of that is that I teach them how to treat their father. They respect me because he demands it, and since they respect me, they respect him because I demand it. We also display that ourselves. My husband holds doors for me, carries things for me etc. so to the boys, that is what being a good man is about. I cover my head and don't wear pants and say thank you when they hold the door, so they respect their father and see how we relate to each other. What I am saying is that to gain respect, you have to display and demonstrate respect yourself. Hope this helps some.
 
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Hang in there, bshaw96!

It is extremely difficult to deal with a hyperactive/defiant child on a daily basis. My advise...take breaks on a regular basis. Find someone that you totally trust and allow them to baby-sit so that you can have some "relaxation" time to yourself--to "re-charge" your batteries. You also need something to look forward to that doesn't include the stress of watching your son while trying to get out of the house. (Like a movie, visit to a museum or church event.) If you get to do something that is just "fun"...it will give you the strength to carry-on when things get difficult.

And, I would like to note, it *will* get better as your child grows older. Most of the hyperactive/defiant children that I've known have "out-grown" this problems for the most part by the time they are 12 or 13. If you can hang-in-there until then...you're home free...(I know that sounds like a long time...but, it passes quicker than you think...lol) In the meantime...it sounds like you are already giving him the basics of behavior (how to behave correctly). I would say: continue to do that--and as your son out-grows a lot of this behavior...you will have a sweet, loving and caring child! It is hard, I know (I've been there--believe me!) But, with consistent breaks...you will feel more relaxed and less "frazzled". (And I would try to get my husband as involved as possible...since boys like this seem to listen to men more often than women.)

*hugs*

Chrystal....
 
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We love those guys too! They have some GREAT advice on rowdy boys: mainly, that they're SUPPOSED to be rowdy! The key is making it constructive, vs. just a wild maniac.

They have a FREE mag subsription you can sign up for on their site, and it is SUCH a great family-building mag... So if you go visit them, sign up for the mag. And their books are awesome too, and tapes...and...let's see...this is turning into a big No Greater Joy commercial! ^_^

I don't agree with every single little thing they say, but I love their heart and in general have found their highly practical advice to be very helpful in raising a happy joyful brood of rugrats!
:)

Love,
Molly
 
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My Son Just Turned 3 And He Is Hard! I Am Getting Somewhat Better Control Over Him But Still He Has His Days. He Is So Messy. I Am Constantly Behind Him. I Have To Bbribe Him To Clean. And Praise Him For It. I Think Praise Works Great. I Have A Trouble Of Getting Him Take Meds. He Will Not Take Meds For No Reason. I Have To Hold Him Down ..and He Screams And Crys. I Out It In A Sippy Cup And He Tastes It. I Have To Force Him To Take It.. And I Hate To.. I Guess Its Hard In Differnt Caatagorys With Everyone. We Took Him To The County Fair Last Night.. And He Was The Only One ... That Could Not Be Patient Until The Ride Started.. After It Started He Was Ok.. He Wanted Out. My Husband Was About Dead... Putting Him On Rides...just To Take Him Off .. Its Frustrating At Times Like This. I Have A Trouble Also ..where He Wants To Run Off In The Store. He Thinks He Is To Big For A Buggy Now.. So I Will Let Him Walk .. Well He Does Good But When We Get It The Regester To Pay.. He Will Want To Take Off To The Machines To But A Quarter In It.. Well I Told Him He Was In Trouble When We Got Home. I Put Him In His Room And Shut The Door..oh He Hated That...he Screamed And Cryed. I Hate To Even Discipline Him.. But Hes Got To Learn. I Spank Him But Hardly Ever. I More Use The Time Out Thing. Or I Hold Him In My Lap .. Yes He Crys ..but That Seems To Work. I Am Trying Different Things With Him. He Is Very Stubborn And Strong Willed. I Want To Break That Before He Goes To School . He Is A Hard Child And Needs Lots And Lots Of Work..so By The End Of The Day Im Pretty Tired. He Wears Me Out. I Have No Family Really Or Friends .. So Its Just Me And Him And My Husband.. And I Take This 24/7 Lol I Need Breaks.. Thats When My Hubby Gets Home.. I Take About A Hour To Recooperate. Then Im Ready To Go Again.
 
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alaskamolly said:
I have a 3 year old who is a WILD CHILD, and if he were born in most other homes, he'd probably be in Juvenile Hall by now... ^_^

We have two older daughters, who were certainly full of zest and had their particular challenges, but this boy just came in and knocked me on my face! Here I thought I had basic parenting down, and then this child comes along and pretty much runs me ragged before he even hits two years old!!!!!!!!!!



When he was newly 2, and I was about to go insane with him already, I cried out to the Lord for help--I just didn't know what to do with him, and I was honestly to the point where I barely even LIKED him anymore, he was so much work--and I remember hearing very clearly: "Just treat him like a little bear cub." I know that sounds crazy, but that's what I heard!

So...I have ever since...and he has turned into a different little boy altogether! Still full of spitfire and still going a mile a minute, and I still can't give him an inch (or he'll take 500 miles) but his heart is now so WITH me...and my love for him is DEEP.

What does 'treat him like a little bear cub' mean?

To me, it simply meant to get on the floor with him, wrestle him, chase him, growl at him on all fours and try to tickle him throughout the house, etc... It also includes having pride like a momma bear--heehee--making a big deal out of his strength, his skills, on ANYTHING "manly" he might be displaying (including his protection of his sisters, his "good manners like Daddy," his ANYTHING (like, "wow, you are fast at running--amazing!"), etc...

The swaggering around my house is pretty incredible, let me tell you ^_^ , and he just BEAMS with joy everytime his momma comments on his manly talents...


I kid you not, literally the DAY I started acting like this toward him, he totally changed. His face was just filled with delight and I've had a little "love slave" ever since, who still challenges his mommy something fierce sometimes (and she still wins, too, though sometimes it takes her a while!), but who loves her and swears he'll "protect ya from all dah bad guys, momma, cuz yer soooo sweet and you're my bestest momma," which is generally followed by a big sloppy smooch on the cheek. :blush:



I know God gave him this fiery active personality for a reason--a big reason--and I'm greatful for it...but I'm also equally greatful that He gave me the tools to survive his childhood! HA!

Hope this helps some!

Love in Him,
Molly
so how do you discipline him? my kid is like this and he's wont be 2 until february.
 
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We are loving, but firm and consistant. :)

I'm so sorry, but I'm not going to go into any details, because there are some on this forum who will cry "abuse" (for just about anything), even though I have a feeling the details would probably really be a blessing (and are certainly not anything close to "abusive")!

The real key is, however, CONSISTANCY.

With boys like that, if you say something is a "no-no," you'd better be prepared to put up a darn good fight and WIN, because they will test your willpower every single minute. Once you establish that you WILL win (or die trying), then you will really set a wonderful precedent, and they will likely never test *quite* so much in the future...though they certainly will continue to test!

We've personally found a lot of help and encouragement (to let boys be wild boys, and yet also learn to be *obedient* wild boys) from
http://www.NoGreaterJoy.org and I can't recommend their books enough. The small $ investment (they really are very inexpensive) will be worth it's weight in gold--at least it was for us.

...Not that we agree with every single thing they say, but those guys gave us the tools we needed (as we began as total idiots in parenting!^_^ ) to have a loud happy wiggly but OBEDIENT home.

...And, if I do say so myself...we do have exactly that! :) With a 6, a 4, a 3, and a 1 (plus somebody due in May), and homeschooling, I'd say that's saying something!!!!!!!


Blessings to you,
Molly
 
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LOL!!!! Well ladies what about a wild child 2year old GIRL?????? My daughter is a pistol pete..ha!ha! Got any suggsetions on raising a daughter that will push your limits ? For instance, she will get out of the tub and run from me..I have very calmly told her no...she laughs and takes off again, so I have resorted to spanking that lil wet butt or legs..sorry if some here find that cruel BUT guess what? she stops and listens and that behavior ceases!
The other night I told her to put up het doll stroller....she pitched a fit..I went and got my NO-No switch...all I had to do was show it to her...she knows what that is for and she put the stroller up...oh, she was not happy about it and she would shove the stroller ahead of her hard...you could tell that little temper was flaring but she did it...On a few occasions yes I can talk to her..and sometimes I have put her in time out until she calms down and then she can come out!HELP!!!! I feel like I am a bad mom for spanking her and for raising my voice to her!!!
 
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tonya said:
LOL!!!! Well ladies what about a wild child 2year old GIRL?????? My daughter is a pistol pete..ha!ha! Got any suggsetions on raising a daughter that will push your limits ? For instance, she will get out of the tub and run from me..I have very calmly told her no...she laughs and takes off again, so I have resorted to spanking that lil wet butt or legs..sorry if some here find that cruel BUT guess what? she stops and listens and that behavior ceases!
The other night I told her to put up het doll stroller....she pitched a fit..I went and got my NO-No switch...all I had to do was show it to her...she knows what that is for and she put the stroller up...oh, she was not happy about it and she would shove the stroller ahead of her hard...you could tell that little temper was flaring but she did it...On a few occasions yes I can talk to her..and sometimes I have put her in time out until she calms down and then she can come out!HELP!!!! I feel like I am a bad mom for spanking her and for raising my voice to her!!!
I have a 2 year old girl as well, she pushes her limits all the time! I've started the counting thing, I'll let her know if I get to "3", then no "whatever" something...and I follow through, but lately it's been working...I've swatted her little bottom a few times, to get her attention as well.

YOU ARE NOT A BAD MOMMY!!! :hug: My feeling is, whatever works for your child, that's the best way to go! You are the mom, you know what's best, and it's nobody's else's business to tell you if it's right or wrong!! :)
 
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