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The Holy Spirit is the Comforter that Jesus sent back to live inside the believer as the guiding Spirit of truth and new nature. Jesus went to be with the Father, at His right hand as our advocate, and intercedes for us even as our enemy satan accuses all of the brethren.
The Holy Spirit, if asked inside, lives with us to help us overcome the old nature of sin and death that we inherited from Adam. Once we are "born again", of God's Spirit and given a new spirit, we have the power to become sons of God and bear the fruit of the Holy Spirit in our lives.

Col 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

2Co 1:22 and he has identified us as his own by placing the Holy Spirit in our hearts as the first installment of everything he will give us.

2Co 3:17 Now, the Lord is the Spirit, and wherever the Spirit of the Lord is, he gives freedom.

Ga 5:16 So I advise you to live according to your new life in the Holy Spirit. Then you won’t be doing what your sinful nature craves.
17 The old sinful nature loves to do evil, which is just opposite from what the Holy Spirit wants. And the Spirit gives us desires that are opposite from what the sinful nature desires. These two forces are constantly fighting each other, and your choices are never free from this conflict.

Pe 1:23 For you have been born again. Your new life did not come from your earthly parents because the life they gave you will end in death. But this new life will last forever because it comes from the eternal, living word of God.

John 3:5 Jesus replied, "The truth is, no one can enter the Kingdom of God without being born of water and the Spirit.
6 Humans can reproduce only human life, but the Holy Spirit gives new life from heaven.
7 So don’t be surprised at my statement that you must be born again.

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Galatians 5:22 But when the Holy Spirit controls our lives, he will produce this kind of fruit in us: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
23 gentleness, and self-control.
 
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Mr Ez said:
as far from i know the chistians belives that god is 1 and there are there part of them which is father, son and the holy ghost.

This is not precisely correct. The All Holy Trinity is not made up of three parts to constitute a whole God. Each person of the Holy Trinity is fully God in essence.
 
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It has to be said that the doctrine of the Trinity is very hard to understand. It results from the observation that people have encountered the same God in the form of three distinct persons, and that those persons also interact with each other.
 
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I know it is hard for some people but I don't feel like I have a hard time grasping it at all. Just like we are soul/mind, body, and spirit; God is.
How is it possible to partition intangible aspects? How do you know that we are only composed of three parts, and not four? or five?

I agree that it's quite easy to grasp the 3 alleged parts of man that parallels the 3 alleged parts of the godhead. That's just as simple as seeing three apples over here, and matching them with three oranges over there.

But do you understand the trinity itself?
 
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Mr Ez said:
so which one should one worship ? father, son, or holy spirit ?
The simple answer is all of them.

There are clear examples of Jesus being worshiped in the gospels. If he were not God and was a true holy person he should have rebuked his Disciples for that.

I tend to think of the Father as the OT God who apears in Isreal and there are plenty of examples of direct worship of the father. Many of Jesus' own prayers contain worship to the father. The Holy Spirit is present in lives and is who we encounter when we worship or 'feel' or are 'aware' of the presence of God. In Acts and the epistles there are references to worshiping "in" the Spirit.

It is possible to pray to all three as well. For example:

"Jesus save me"

"Father provide for me"

"Holy Spirit enpower me".

And a thankyou to all three does not go amiss!

Hope this helps.
 
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Harold Fletcher said:
How is it possible to partition intangible aspects? How do you know that we are only composed of three parts, and not four? or five?

I agree that it's quite easy to grasp the 3 alleged parts of man that parallels the 3 alleged parts of the godhead. That's just as simple as seeing three apples over here, and matching them with three oranges over there.

But do you understand the trinity itself?
You have a fair point. The problem is that there is no adequate vocabulary for describing this doctrine of God as His triune nature is byond our comprehension. It is what some of us call a "Mystery" that which we are told but can not explain. other such mysteries include the ressurection of Christ and the end times. I'll gues we have to wait and see until the other side of eternity to get soem of our questions answered.
 
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Prayer to the All Holy Trinity

O Most Holy Trinity have Mercy on us,
O Lord, Cleanse us from our sins,
O Master Pardon our transgessions,
O Holy One visit and heal our infirmities for Thy names sake !
 
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Mr Ez said:
as far from i know the chistians belives that god is 1 and there are there part of them which is father, son and the holy ghost.

so my question is who is the holy ghost ?

I haven't read all the posts on this thread, but I would like to put my two cents in....

Cent 1.) Most, but not all, christians believe in the three part God. Some, however, like me, believe that each part is a different manifestation of the same person.

Cent 2.) The holy ghost is the comforter which the Lord sent down after Jesus ascended into heaven. You can read about it in Acts chapter 2.
 
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The Midge said:
The simple answer is all of them.

There are clear examples of Jesus being worshiped in the gospels. If he were not God and was a true holy person he should have rebuked his Disciples for that.

I tend to think of the Father as the OT God who apears in Isreal and there are plenty of examples of direct worship of the father. Many of Jesus' own prayers contain worship to the father. The Holy Spirit is present in lives and is who we encounter when we worship or 'feel' or are 'aware' of the presence of God. In Acts and the epistles there are references to worshiping "in" the Spirit.

It is possible to pray to all three as well. For example:

"Jesus save me"

"Father provide for me"

"Holy Spirit enpower me".

And a thankyou to all three does not go amiss!

Hope this helps.

But if you still hold on to the thing that the three parts of God parallel the three parts of man, then you shouldn't pray to each seperatly. For example, when you first meet someone, say named bob, you don't say, "Hello Bob's Mind, Hello Bob's body, Hello Bob's spirit," etc.
 
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ralrachaan said:
But if you still hold on to the thing that the three parts of God (snip)

Your terminology to define the Trinity used above only points to your lack of understanding of God's triune nature (however that is not unusual with Oneness proponents). God is NOT three parts - the Being of God is only ONE. However, within the one Being of God exists three distinct Persons who share the same essence. Each Person within the Godhead/Elohim is FULLY Lord and God yet not three Lords or Gods but one Lord and one God.

We Trinitarians do NOT worship a three-headed/partitioned/part God but we worship God in Trinity - having recognized by study of Scripture that there are three Who are referred to as God and yet there is only one God.

The concept of the Trinity was not lost on the prophets of the Old Testament - Moses and Isaiah understood God's triune nature and wrote about it. The Trinity is revealed as much in the Old Testament as it is in the New (even moreso really);)


Ray :wave:
 
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