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And you choose to disbelieve these warnings. Well, they occurred.
There’s still hope for them. They need prayers.
Don't you understand that there was no such thing as a unified "Christianity" after the 1st Century? Romanism totally perverted the gospel and added works to faith for salvation and even sold "indulgences".
Within all that documentation and commentaries, we learn that very many of these "early church fathers" failed to understand or even accept the clear principle of grace; that salvation cannot be earned nor deserved. That is why there is no action that man can do to have salvation, nor any action that man can do to lose salvation.I listened to a lecture on the accuracy of scripture. It turns out we have so much early church documentation and commentaries, you could reconstruct the bible from the commentaries and quotes. The difficulty is there are simply not enough scholars to handle the material.
1 John 1:9 isn't about confessing to each other. It's confessing before God, who ALONE forgives and cleanses/purifies us. Just read all of 1 John 1 and count the times John mentions "fellowship". 4 That's HOW the believer has fellowship with God; through confession of sin.And what we are not doing, is confessing our sins to each other.
Did you not ever read the account in Acts 5? Sure seems so. I am repeatedly amazed by your lack of knowledge regarding the Bible.So they sold everything they owned because they didn’t believe?
And where do you read that?No I completely agree with this. His sheep undoubtedly do follow but they follow (abide) until the end not just for a little while.
Well, this is interesting. One of your posts seemed to insinuate that I had no training in college. Now you say this "is worse than" you thought. Seems I can't win, huh.Oh no. You say you have a doctorate. This is worse than I thought.
Let's not get into the weeds here, ok? This is totally irrelevant. What is your height and weight? lolWhat was your discipline?
That is exactly what the far left Dems do. Transfer their own sins on the Republicans.By the way you are not believing what it is plainly saying.
Yes, Jesus described WHAT His sheep DO, not HOW to become sheep.Jesus's sheep listen to Him, follow Him and know Him.
Totally irrelevant to this discussion.Have you ever gone up to a dog that does not know you and
tried to tell it what to do? It will just run away.
Where did I ever say any of this?You have said Jesus's sheep can ignore Him, rebel against Him, and
go their own way. That is not what it says. It simply says the sheep
of Jesus listen to Him, follow Him and know Him.
Very nice. But why don't you believe what Jesus said in John 10:28.When I read the sermon on the mount my heart rejoiced. No matter
how difficult I want to follow this guy and understand His words.
What is my "loss", exactly? I have no idea what you are insinuating.Does not sound like this is you? And surprisingly we do not agree.
The great thing about this, it is your loss not mine.
Since we don't know each other and will probably never meet this side of eternity, you'll never see my fruit.I had a long conversation with a guy who denied the sermon on the
mount applied to believers. Funnily this meant he was not a sheep.
So I hope you are a sheep, but your fruit will tell me......God bless
Well, not it's real clear that you DON'T read my posts. Explains a lot.What verses say they infiltrate the church. If I’m not mistaken the verses you quoted said they left the church not infiltrated.
No need. Wrong again. Rome was selling indulgences by the 2nd Century.Rome was not in control of the church and was faithful to the gospel until the 6th century.
Actually I need to reiterate on that but I don’t have time right now.
Are you not aware of 1 Tim 4:1?When did I say I disbelieve these warnings? Now your just putting words in my mouth. Don’t you believe that Jesus’ church will prevail over the gates of hell? Nowhere does the Bible say the majority of the church will fall away.
Did you not ever read the account in Acts 5? Sure seems so. I am repeatedly amazed by your lack of knowledge regarding the Bible.
They LIED to the Holy Spirit about the amount they received from the sale of their property and told Peter they got less than they did.
They wanted everyone to think they gave all they got for the land, but they held some back. And they suffered the discipline called the "sin unto death" for it. 1 John 5:16
You judge someone of not being a sheep of Jesus because he misunderstood who the sermon on the mount was for.
I've been very straightforward with you. When you state error, I correct the error. My manner is straightforward. Some may call it blunt, but my concern is only for truth, which I find lacking in your posts regarding John 10:28, which you've made clear you don't believe those very clear and plain words about recipients of eternal life never perishing.Your manner suggests to me you see me as your opponent.
I cannot believe that you actually "listen and follow Jesus" as you claim, because you insist on inserting conditions for recipients of eternal life to meet when Jesus gave NONE.If you listen to Jesus and follow Him like I do, there is something in you that is steering your approach.
There can be no fellowship when one believer only claims to listen and follow Christ but then out of the other side of their mouth don't believe what Jesus said.I am happy to have fellowship with brothers or sisters in Christ.
Of course I do.Do you believe we should listen to all Jesus's words and obey them, including the sermon on the mount?
I have believed that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God (John 20:31) and that He died for my sins (1 Cor 15:3) and gives me eternal life (John 10:28) and as a result:I ask this because listening to Jesus, I need to know if you are a sheep or not?
You must be delusional then.Your approach suggests to me you do not believe you are a sheep.
And the FACT that you don't believe His words in John 10:28 is quite telling about your own status as a sheep.I judge no one, it is Jesus's words that judge people.
Well, not it's real clear that you DON'T read my posts. Explains a lot.
Acts 20:29 - I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.
2 Tim 4:3,4
3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers (savate wolves) to say what their itching ears want to hear.
4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
Are you not aware of 1 Tim 4:1?
My friend "free", I am just quoting Jesus.
I have to thank you for showing me John 28:27-28
It encourages my heart to know He knows me, and He knows we listen to Him and follow Him. As you seem to not be in agreement with me I know you do not.
Jesus tells me you will never listen to me, so God bless you, I wish you well, but I cannot really say anymore
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