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The $15/hour minimum wage rate is applicable to Los Angeles, CA. It isn't as far as I know, a general proposition for the entire USA. The discussion in this thread has been about the LA proposal for a $15/hour rate.No. I live in Orlando, Florida. Before that, Atlanta, Georgia and before that, Norway in the middle of nowhere
Oh I see. I didn't know it was for California. I guess that makes more sense. I did not read the beginning of the thread. My bad on this. I hope it does not go nationwideThe $15/hour minimum wage rate is applicable to Los Angeles, CA. It isn't as far as I know, a general proposition for the entire USA. The discussion in this thread has been about the LA proposal for a $15/hour rate.
Sounds exactly like that generalization stuff that you were upset with me for mentioning before.
Perhaps the slip-up in your thinking is that you have given all the blame for a ruined economy to there not being enough welfare (and/or to "some" people who don't agree with you about the matter), when it's really the policies of the administration that have kept people unemployed or underemployed for so long.
Why? Wouldn't you like a pay raise to $15/hour which would be $1/hour more than your post said you currently receive.Oh I see. I didn't know it was for California. I guess that makes more sense. I did not read the beginning of the thread. My bad on this. I hope it does not go nationwide
they don't get paid more to stand inside an air conditioned building and flip burgers and work a cash register.
Thank you for the apology.
I am against paying people below minimum wage (in addition to being for a hike in the minimum wage in the first place). Most everyone I know is against paying any employee below minimum. I have many friends and family members employed in the restaurant industry who are stuck living for tips because of a loophole that allows employers to pay tipped servers a "different" minimum wage (which is much lower than even the one we have now), and it's an awful abuse of labor.
It's wrong, and it needs to be stopped. If a business cannot afford to pay their employees a living wage, then they're not successful enough to keep their doors open.
It "can be worse", but it should never be worse in the first place.
Thank you, and again I am sorry.
I am on prescription pills, and not myself.
This is so misunderstood. Most people are not against the wealthy having their money honestly! What most people are against is when they get out of paying their share of taxes with loop holes that many times ends up with them paying zero taxes! While the middle class has to pay their taxes. So many people yell no hand outs to seniors or the disabled, those working jobs if they don't make enough money too bad! But so many of them don't mind the hand outs to the most wealthy. Hand outs, loop holes, subsidies for the wealthy is what I am against and it is what a lot of others is against. I'm not religious but I always think of the story about the rich man and just imagine if that story is true what would happen today if Jesus told so many of the billionaires and millionaires to sell all they have and give to the poor??? Just askingJesus must had thought that was morally right??
If you truly believe that the only way to keep people employed is to pay them less than is needed to live then how far will such logic go? Shall slavery be reintroduced so that slaves can be fed by their masters and housed by them but receive no pay? That would surely be cheaper than $15/hour in Los Angeles Ca today. But when it comes down to it machines may be cheaper still and then even slavery would not keep people in employment. So this argument that one needs to keep the minimum wage rate down in order the preserve employment is hollow. It gives the semblance of reason but entirely lacks its substance.Here is where $15/Hour is headed. No vacation time needed, no healthcare insurance, no workman's compensation costs, never calls in sick or hung over, and never has an attitude problem.
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Don't forget in the US the bottom 50% pay no taxes. This means the biggest tax loophole is for the lower 50% of wage earners.
The bottom 50% may not pay federal income taxes but they surely pay sales taxes and land taxes if they own a property and if they don't then they pay land taxes through rent and they pay taxes on numerous other services, such as road tolls, license fees, government fees for school books and other necessary school supplies. It is only those who must survive on charity and welfare who would be free from school costs. So the idea that the bottom 50% pay no taxes is untrue. It is one of the many untruths told in debates about taxation and minimum wage rates.I'm sorry but while I believe those making millions and billions of dollars should NOT have loop holes to keep them from paying taxes, and while I do not agree to hand outs in the form of bail outs for Wall Street, but I also don't believe in taxing the lowest wage earners in this country. I come from a wealthy family and while my dad enjoyed his tax breaks he never once thought the poorer people should have to pay them. Some things I am just glad I take after him.
The bottom 50% may not pay federal income taxes but they surely pay sales taxes and land taxes if they own a property and if they don't then they pay land taxes through rent and they pay taxes on numerous other services, such a road tolls, license fees, government fees for school books and other necessary school supplies. It is only those who must survive on charity and welfare who would be free from school costs. So the idea that the bottom 50% pay no taxes is untrue. It is one of the many untruths told in debates about taxation and minimum wage rates.
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