111, 333, 666, and 999

[Phaedron777]

[SIZE=-1][/SIZE][SIZE=-1]The Apocalypse is the [SIZE=+2]66[/SIZE]th and last book of the BIBLE.[/SIZE] 1/66=[SIZE=-1]0.0 151 515 [SIZE=-2]151 515 ...[/SIZE][/SIZE] ⇒ 151+515=[SIZE=+2]666[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]The chapter [SIZE=+2]6[/SIZE] of the Apocalypse is well that which describes the arrival of the Antichrist.[/SIZE] 1/6 = [SIZE=-1]1.1 666 666 666 ...[/SIZE] ⇒ [SIZE=+2]666[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]«Wisdom is needed here; one who understands can calculate the number of the beast, for it is a number that stands for a person. His number is six hundred and sixty-six.» (Revelation [SIZE=+2]13[/SIZE]/[SIZE=+2]18[/SIZE], defines the beast; 13 symbol of dead - 18=[SIZE=-1]6[/SIZE]+[SIZE=-1]6[/SIZE]+[SIZE=-1]6[/SIZE]).
Such as it clearly comes to light from the numerologic processing herewith [simple inversions, divisions and additions!], this famous verse 18 of chapter 13 of the Apocalypse codifies, at the same time and in multiple ways, the poisoned mark of the "beast" (666) and its antidote or the way of the salvation, that is "wisdom" with God (777), Jesus (8 88 888) and the anti-beast (999). Let us recall here that in greek numerology the value of Jesus [ιηςους] is:
ι(10)+η(8)+ς(200)+ο(70)+υ(400)+ς(200) = 888 (8 X 111).
In addition, it is important to stress that the original Greek text of the Apocalypse (book of Revelation of Jesus) comprises a total of [SIZE=+2]888[/SIZE] words. [/SIZE] 13/18=[SIZE=-2] 0. 7 222[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]222[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]222 ...[/SIZE]




[SIZE=-1]18/13[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]=1.3[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]846 153[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]846 153[/SIZE]...
[SIZE=-2]13 =>1+3=4 18 =>1+8=9 13+18=31
13=4+9 13=6+7 18=6+6+6=3x6=9+9[/SIZE]
4/9=[SIZE=-1] 0. 444 444 444 ...[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-2]31/13=31÷(4+9)[/SIZE][SIZE=-2]=2.3846 153[/SIZE] [SIZE=-3]846 ...[/SIZE]
1/7=[SIZE=-1] 0. 142 857[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]142 857 ...[/SIZE]

1/9=[SIZE=-1] 0. 111 111 111 ...[/SIZE]


1/88=[SIZE=-2]0.011 363 636 363 636 ...[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]⇒[/SIZE] 222+222+222[SIZE=-2]=[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=+1]666[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]⇒ 222x4=[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]888[/SIZE]


⇒ 846+153=[SIZE=+2]999[/SIZE]

⇒ 444+444=[SIZE=+2]888[/SIZE]
⇒ 846+153=[SIZE=+2]999[/SIZE]
⇒ 142+857=[SIZE=+2]999[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-2]⇒ 111x6=[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]666[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]111x7=[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]777[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]111x8=[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]888[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]111x9=[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]999[/SIZE]

⇒ 363+636=[SIZE=+2]999[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]Chapter [SIZE=+2]6[/SIZE] of the Gospel of John treats about the miracle of multiplication of fishes and spiritual bread, the "bread of life" (John, chap. 6/35) and consequences of the Antichrist, whose work shows through with verse [SIZE=+2]66[/SIZE]. «As a result of this, many (of) his disciples returned to their former way of life and no longer accompanied him.» (John [SIZE=+2]6/66[/SIZE]). [/SIZE] 1/6=[SIZE=-2]1.1 666[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] 666[/SIZE][SIZE=-2] 666 ...[/SIZE]
1/66=[SIZE=-1]0.0 151 515[/SIZE][SIZE=-2] 151 515 ...[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+2]6/66[/SIZE] ⇒ [SIZE=+2]666
[SIZE=-1] ⇒ 151+515=[/SIZE][SIZE=+2]666[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]⇒ [/SIZE][SIZE=+2]666[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]The Apocalypse is also in the center of the last chapter of the book of Isaiah, that is to say in chapter [SIZE=+2]66[/SIZE]. «For the LORD shall judge all mankind by fire and sword; and many shall be slain by the LORD.» (Isaiah [SIZE=+2]66[/SIZE]/[SIZE=+2]16[/SIZE]). [/SIZE] 1/66=[SIZE=-1]0.0 151 515[/SIZE][SIZE=-2] 151 515 ...[/SIZE]

16/66 = [SIZE=-1]0.242 424[/SIZE][SIZE=-2] 242 424 ...[/SIZE]
66[SIZE=-1] ⇒ 6+6=[/SIZE]12 16[SIZE=-1] ⇒ 1+6=[/SIZE]7
12/7=[SIZE=-1]1.714 285[/SIZE][SIZE=-2] 714 285 ...[/SIZE]
7/12=[SIZE=-2]0.58 333[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]333[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]333 ...[/SIZE]
1/12=[SIZE=-2]0.08 333[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]333[/SIZE][SIZE=-2] 333 ...[/SIZE]

1/7=[SIZE=-1]0.142 857[/SIZE][SIZE=-2] 142 857 ...[/SIZE] ⇒ 151+515=[SIZE=+2]666[/SIZE]
⇒ 242+424=[SIZE=+2]666[/SIZE]

⇒ 714+285=[SIZE=+2]999[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-2]333x2=[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]666[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]333x3=[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]999[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-2]333x2=[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]666[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]333x3=[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]999[/SIZE]
⇒ 857+142=[SIZE=+2]999[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]The word "beast" is mentioned [SIZE=+2]37[/SIZE] times in the Apocalypse, in [SIZE=+2]29[/SIZE] verses. The numerologic processing of these two numbers reveals not only the anti-beast (999) but especially the eye of god (0/0), quite vigilant in triple 9: number 90909. The Divine Word, contained in the 66 books of the Bible, would be the way of the salvation. [/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]37 =>3+7=10 29 =>2+9=11
37+29=66 21=10+11
10/11=[SIZE=-1]0.90909[/SIZE][SIZE=-2] 09090 90 ...[/SIZE]



29/37=[SIZE=-1]0.783 783 783 ...[/SIZE]

15/66=[SIZE=-1]0.2 272 727[/SIZE][SIZE=-2] 272 727 ...[/SIZE]

21/66=[SIZE=-1]0.3 181 818[/SIZE][SIZE=-2] 181 818 ...[/SIZE]

66/21=[SIZE=-1]3. 142 857[/SIZE][SIZE=-2] 142 857 ...[/SIZE] [/SIZE]
⇒ [SIZE=+2]9[/SIZE][SIZE=+2]0[/SIZE][SIZE=+2]9[/SIZE][SIZE=+2]0[/SIZE][SIZE=+2]9[/SIZE]
⇒ 90+909=[SIZE=+2]999[/SIZE]
⇒ 783x2=[SIZE=+2]1566[/SIZE]
⇒ 272+727=[SIZE=+2]999[/SIZE]
⇒ 181+818=[SIZE=+2]999[/SIZE]
⇒ 142+857=[SIZE=+2]999[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]The concept of [SIZE=+2]third[/SIZE] ([SIZE=+2]1÷3[/SIZE]) has a great importance in the Apocalypse where this word appears 15 times (total of 39 occurrences in the Bible). In the book of Revelation, one finds the word "third" in Apoc. 8/7 (2 times), Apoc. 8/8 (1 time), Apoc. 8/9 (2 times), Apoc. 8/10 (1 time), Apoc. 8/11 (1 time), Apoc. 8/12 (5 times), Apoc. 9/15 (1 time), Apoc. 9/18 (1 time) and Apoc. 12/4 (1 time). The taking into account of the crowned Word (of the 39 occurrences of the third in the Bible; see link above) generates each time the anti-animal (999). [/SIZE] 1/3=[SIZE=-1]0.333 333 333 ...[/SIZE]


2/3=[SIZE=-1]0.666 666 666 ...[/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]15/39[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]=0.3[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]846 153[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]846 153...[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-2]15 =>1+5=6 39 =>3+9=12 15+39=54
18=6+12

[SIZE=-1]18/54=[SIZE=-2]2.3[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]846 153[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]846 153 ...[/SIZE][/SIZE] [/SIZE] ⇒ 333x2=[SIZE=+2]666[/SIZE]
⇒ 333x3=[SIZE=+2]999[/SIZE]
⇒ [SIZE=+2]666[/SIZE]

⇒ 846+153=[SIZE=+2]999[/SIZE]

⇒ 846+153=[SIZE=+2]999[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]The BIBLE comprises [SIZE=+2]66[/SIZE] books, remarkable number selected for well marking the sign of the beast. [/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]1/66[/SIZE]=[SIZE=-1]0.0 151 515[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]151 515 ...[/SIZE] ⇒ 151+515=[SIZE=+2]666[/SIZE]

 

[Phaedron777]

"Wisdom": 999 integrated antidote of the 666
"... its number is six [6] hundred [100] sixty-six [66]" (Apocalypse 13/18) 6 ⇒ 1/6 = 0.[SIZE=+2]1[/SIZE]66 [SIZE=+2]666[/SIZE] 666 666 ... 100 ⇒ 1/100 = 0.0[SIZE=+2]1[/SIZE] 66 ⇒ 1/66 = 0.0 [SIZE=+2]1[/SIZE]51 515 151 515 ...
(⇒ 151 + 515 = [SIZE=+2]666[/SIZE]) Generic TOTAL = 0.[SIZE=+2]1[/SIZE]9 181 818 181 818 ... 181 + 818 = [SIZE=+2]999[/SIZE] "... here is wisdom ..." (Apocalypse 13/18)
NOTE: 1/666 = 0.00 150 150 150 ... 1/999 = 0.00 100 100 100 ...
19 ⇒ 1 + 9 = 10 ⇒ 1 + 0 = [SIZE=+2]1[/SIZE] ⇒ Only ONE way for salvation = Jesus! ...

(BIBLE)​

The 7 Blisses: Way for Salvation
[SIZE=-1] 1st « [...] Blessed is the one who reads aloud and blessed are those who listen to this prophetic message and heed what is written in it, for the appointed time is near.» (Apocalypse 1/3) [/SIZE] 1/3 = [SIZE=-1]0.333 333 333 ...[/SIZE] ⇒ 333x3=[SIZE=+2]999[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1] 2nd « [...] I heard a voice from heaven say, "Write this: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on." "Yes," said the Spirit, "let them find rest from their labors, for their works accompany them." ». (Apocalypse 14/13) [/SIZE] 14/13=[SIZE=-2]1.0 769 230 769 230 ...[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-2]14 =>1+4=5 13 =>1+3=4
14+13=27
9 = 5+4

[SIZE=-2]9/27=(5+4)÷27[/SIZE][SIZE=-2]= 0.333 333 333 ...[/SIZE] [/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]⇒[/SIZE] 769+230=[SIZE=+2]999[/SIZE]



⇒ 333x3=[SIZE=+2]999[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1] 3rd « [...] "Behold, I am coming like a thief." Blessed is the one who watches and keeps his clothes ready, so that he may not go naked and people see him exposed !.» (Apocalypse 16/15). In this case of exception, it is the "shame" (of going naked) which generates the 666. However, the anti-beast (999) gives safety and salvation to "one who watches" regularly. [/SIZE] 16/15=[SIZE=-2]1.0 666 666 666 ...[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-2]16 =>1+6=7 15 =>1+5=6
16+15=31
13 = 7+6
7/6=[SIZE=-2] 1.1 666 666 666 ...[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-2]31/13=31[/SIZE]÷(7+6)[SIZE=-2]= 2.3 846 153 846 153 ...[/SIZE]

1/7=[SIZE=-2]0. 142 857 142 857 ...[/SIZE]

1/6=[SIZE=-2]0.1 666 666 666 ...[/SIZE] [/SIZE] ⇒ [SIZE=+2]666[/SIZE]

⇒ [SIZE=+2]666[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]⇒[/SIZE] 846+153=[SIZE=+2]999[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]⇒[/SIZE] 142+857=[SIZE=+2]999[/SIZE]
⇒ [SIZE=+2]666[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1] 4th « [...] Then the angel said to me, "Write this: Blessed are those who have been called to the wedding feast of the Lamb." And he said to me, "These words are true; they come from God."» (Apocalypse 19/9) [/SIZE] 19/9=[SIZE=-1]2.111 111 111 ...[/SIZE] ⇒ 111x9=[SIZE=+2]999[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1] 5th « [...] Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over these; they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for (the) thousand years.» (Apocalypse 20/6) [/SIZE] 20/6[SIZE=-2]=10÷3= 3.333 333 333 ...[/SIZE] ⇒ 333x3=[SIZE=+2]999[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1] 6th « [...] "Behold, I am coming soon." Blessed is the one who keeps the prophetic message of this book.» (Apocalypse 22/7) [/SIZE] 22/7[SIZE=-2]=[/SIZE][SIZE=-2]3.142 857 142 857 ...[/SIZE]
7/22[SIZE=-2]=[/SIZE][SIZE=-2]0.3 181 818 181 818 ...[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]⇒[/SIZE] 142+857=[SIZE=+2]999[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]⇒[/SIZE] 181+818=[SIZE=+2]999[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1] 7th « [...] Blessed are they who wash their robes so as to have the right to the tree of life and enter the city 9 through its gates.» (Apocalypse 22/14). Multiple "gates" for salvation (777, 888, 999) carry out in the city, but the "tree of life" is single ([SIZE=+2]1[/SIZE]). [/SIZE] 22/14[SIZE=-2]=11/7=1.5 714 285 714[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-2]22 =>2+2=4 14 =>1+4=5
22+14=36
9 = 4+5 36 =>3 + 6=9
[SIZE=-1]4/36=0.111 111 111 ...[/SIZE]



[SIZE=-1]5/36=0.13 888 888[/SIZE][SIZE=-2] 888 ...[/SIZE]
(4+5) ÷ (3 + 6) = 9 ÷ 9 = [SIZE=+2]1[/SIZE] [/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]⇒[/SIZE] 714+285=[SIZE=+2]999[/SIZE]

⇒ [SIZE=-1]111[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]x7=[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]777[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]111x8=[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]888[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]111x9=[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]999[/SIZE]
⇒ [SIZE=+2]888[/SIZE]

(BIBLE)​

Isaiah 66 will find its principal topic in the Apocalypse, because this book is the 66th and last book of the Bible.

1/66 = 0. 0 151 515 151 515 151 515 ... ⇒ 151 + 515 = [SIZE=+2]666[/SIZE]
The sixth chapter of the apocalypse describes to us the arrival of the Antichrist whereas the chapter six (6) of the Gospel of John describes to us the result of the work of the Antichrist's spirit in the world ... and that in verse 66. Therefore: John [SIZE=+2]6:66[/SIZE] is about the Beast.

 

[ivebeenshown]

I know you're Christian but this does remind me of Muslims who are obsessed with Koran numerology. Altogether vague.

 

[Dark_Lite]

Numerology is a farce.

Also, 66 books in the Bible has no particular significance, especially since it wasn't 66 books until Protestants decided to remove the Deuterocanon.

 

[Achilles6129]

Numerology is a farce.

Also, 66 books in the Bible has no particular significance, especially since it wasn't 66 books until Protestants decided to remove the Deuterocanon.

You have no way of knowing this. For example, the book of Isaiah contains 66 chapters. The 40th chapter begins with the gospel of Jesus Christ, just like the 40th book in the Bible begins with the gospel (Matthew). The book of Isaiah may be considered a miniature Bible.

In addition, there is much numerology used in the book of Revelation. One example is the number of the beast, 666. Another example is the prevalance of the number 7 in the book of Revelation. There are:

7 Churches
7 Spirits of God
7 Eyes
7 Golden Candlesticks
7 Thunders
7 Heads
7 Seals/Trumpets/Vials

And that's only a sample.

 

[NumberOneSon]

My brain hurts....

 

[Bible2]

Phaedron777 said:

111, 333, 666, and 999

Regarding 666, it's the gematrial "number of the name" of the man who is the Antichrist, the beast (Revelation 13:17b-18, Revelation 15:2).

The gematrial number of a name is determined by employing the ancient practice of gematria, which assigns numerical values to the letters of any alphabet, as follows: the first nine letters in the alphabet are 1 through 9, the next nine letters are 10 through 90 (counting by tens), and the rest of the letters are 100, 200, 300, etc., to the end of the alphabet.

In Revelation 13:17b-18, the "counting", the adding up, of the number of the name of the individual man who is the Antichrist (the beast) should be done in the same way that the gematrial numerical values of the three Greek letters (Chi, Xi, Stigma) at the end of Revelation 13:18 (in the original Greek) are added up to arrive at the number 666. The gematrial numerical values of the letters of the ancient Greek alphabet (including the three obsolete letters of Stigma, Qoppa and Sampi) were as follows:

Alpha = 1
Beta = 2
Gamma = 3
Delta = 4
Epsilon = 5
(Stigma = 6)
Zeta = 7
Eta = 8
Theta = 9
Iota = 10
Kappa = 20
Lambda = 30
Mu = 40
Nu = 50
Xi = 60
Omikron = 70
Pi = 80
(Qoppa = 90)
Rho = 100
Sigma = 200
Tau = 300
Upsilon = 400
Phi = 500
Chi = 600
Psi = 700
Omega = 800
(Sampi = 900)

Just as the gematrial numerical values of the letters Chi, Xi and Stigma at the end of Revelation 13:18 (in the original Greek) add up to 666, so the gematrial numerical values of the letters of the name of the man who is the Antichrist will add up to 666 (Revelation 13:17b-18).

The gematrial principle (assigning numerical values to letters in an alphabet based on their position within that alphabet) applies to any alphabet. In Revelation 13:17b-18, John the apostle used the ancient Greek alphabet only because it was the most common alphabet used by believers at the time the book of Revelation was written. Today, the most common alphabet used by believers is the English alphabet, insofar as English is the current lingua franca of the world. So the gematrial numerical values of the letters of the name of the man who is the Antichrist will most likely add up to 666 in the English alphabet.

The whole purpose of Revelation 13:17b-18 is to facilitate for believers, not to make difficult for them, the identification of a certain man as possibly being the Antichrist. If the letters of his name had to be transliterated into the ancient Greek alphabet, this would vitiate this purpose, for almost all believers today wouldn't know how to properly perform the transliteration (as God himself would perform it), and different believers would no doubt come up with variant, competing transliterations, and therefore would arrive at variant, competing gematrial numbers for the name of the certain man in question.

If Christians think that someone is the Antichrist, they need to check and make sure that the gematrial number of his name is 666 (Revelation 13:17b-18). If it isn't, then he isn't the Antichrist, and they need to keep on looking out for the real Antichrist. If it is 666, then he could be the Antichrist, and they need to be especially wary of him and not be snookered by him through any deceptive charisma, intelligence or amazing deeds that he might display. But even if 666 is the number of someone's name, it doesn't mean that he's definitely the Antichrist, for 666 is the number of many different names.

The Antichrist also has to come from a country the territory of which used to be part of one of the four Diadochian Greek kingdoms which succeeded the Greek Empire of Alexander the Great (Daniel 8:8-9,21-25). These four kingdoms stretched from Greece over to Iran, and down into Egypt. So the Antichrist will probably come from the Middle East. He could be an Arab who will come from Lebanon, from the modern city of Tyre (Ezekiel 28:2, cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:4), and have a name like (for example) "Nabil Abdullah Falakal al-Hakim", the gematrial number of which is 666.

But even if a man from the Middle East has a name the gematrial number of which is 666, even this won't assure that he's the Antichrist. For the Antichrist also has to sit in a third Jewish temple in Jerusalem and proclaim himself God (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4, Daniel 11:31,36, Matthew 24:15, Revelation 11:1-2). Once he does that, there won't be any room for doubt about whether or not he's the Antichrist; his identity will have been definitely revealed (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4).

The gematrial numerical values of the letters of the English alphabet are:

A=1
B=2
C=3
D=4
E=5
F=6
G=7
H=8
I=9
J=10
K=20
L=30
M=40
N=50
O=60
P=70
Q=80
R=90
S=100
T=200
U=300
V=400
W=500
X=600
Y=700
Z=800

The way that the gematrial number of a name is "counted" (Revelation 13:17b-18), added up, is simply by adding up the gematrial numerical values of all the letters in that name. So, for example, the number of the name "John Mark Smith" is 636, because:

J=10
O=60
H=8
N=50

M=40
A=1
R=90
K=20

S=100
M=40
I=9
T=200
H=8

Total = 636

The number of the name of the man who is the Antichrist (the beast) adds up to 666 (Revelation 13:17b-18).

 

[Dark_Lite]

You have no way of knowing this. For example, the book of Isaiah contains 66 chapters. The 40th chapter begins with the gospel of Jesus Christ, just like the 40th book in the Bible begins with the gospel (Matthew). The book of Isaiah may be considered a miniature Bible.

In addition, there is much numerology used in the book of Revelation. One example is the number of the beast, 666. Another example is the prevalance of the number 7 in the book of Revelation. There are:

7 Churches
7 Spirits of God
7 Eyes
7 Golden Candlesticks
7 Thunders
7 Heads
7 Seals/Trumpets/Vials

And that's only a sample.

Look up UNCOVER.EXE. It's a DOS program that, while its intended purpose was to show how useful numerology is, actually shows why it's another superstition like astrology. There is a difference between numerical symbolism and numerology. "Bible code" nonsense (i.e. this thread) is false. Numerical symbolism, not necessarily.

And again, there being 66 books in the (Protestant) Bible is simply a coincidence. The Bible had more books before the Protestants decided to remove the Deuterocanon. The formation of the canon was extremely organic, which is why there are differences between the Catholic and Orthodox canons. It's why the Ethiopian Orthodox have a ton of other books.

 

[dalinea]

With all due respect....that is ridiculous!
First of all chapter and verse divisions didn't occur until the 12th or 13th century IIRC

Numerology is a farce.

Also, 66 books in the Bible has no particular significance, especially since it wasn't 66 books until Protestants decided to remove the Deuterocanon.

I agree with Dark_Lite, numerology is a farce.
I will go further and say it is akin to horoscopes in trying to "figure out/perdict anything".
Astrology is forbidden in Scripture, I wouldn't be messes with anything else similar to it.
Besides it is garbage.

My brain hurts....

Gonna get aspirin and eye drops for everyone reading this thread.