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‘Trying to force it open': ICE operation at Virginia apartments scares residents

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Residents of a Fairfax County apartment complex say agents banged on their doors before the sun rose, one of them saying the officers tried to force their way in

One man who lives there said agents woke him up about 6:15 a.m.

"I woke up to very loud, what I would categorize as aggressive, knocks at my door. I approached the door, but before opening it I asked who it was. I heard in response that it was the police. I asked if they had a warrant. They indicated they did," the man told News4. He did not want to be named.

The man said he opened the door after the officers gave him a Hispanic name he didn't recognize.

"I asked them, 'Hey, if you have a warrant, it’s for a specific apartment. Are you knocking on everyone’s door?' I kind of reiterated some of the concerns," he said. "The individual who seemed to be in charge threatened to lock me up — asked me if I wanted to be locked up; that would be more accurate."

Residents who spoke with News4 said they didn’t believe the agents detained anyone.
 

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We need to get used to it.
Why? Are warrants now not needed? Is the Constitution just a piece of paper?

How long until ICE starts dragging citizens out of their homes?
 
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Why? Are warrants now not needed? Is the Constitution just a piece of paper?

How long until ICE starts dragging citizens out of their homes?

If you have the correct papers and valid ID, no one will be dragged out.
 
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If you have the correct papers and valid ID, no one will be dragged out.
What correct papers and valid ID? We don't have a national one.

Think they will take my Democratic state-issued driver's license?
 
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What correct papers and valid ID? We don't have a national one.

Think they will take my Democratic state-issued driver's license?

A birth certificate and passport.

I suppose the drivers license depends on how Democratic the state is.
 
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A birth certificate and passport.

I suppose the drivers license depends on how Democratic the state is.
So, I need to carry my birth certificate with me at all times? And if they decide it is not valid/fake/etc?

This is not well thought out.
 
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If you have the correct papers and valid ID, no one will be dragged out.

No one is legally required to speak with an ICE agent nor show them one's papers.

And they certainly cannot enter a home or business' private area without the appropriate warrant.
 
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So, I need to carry my birth certificate with me at all times? And if they decide it is not valid/fake/etc?

This is not well thought out.
They'll probably use the same type of system as when Obama deported millions.
 
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They'll probably use the same type of system as when Obama deported millions.
So I would have to commit a crime.

I expect my existence will be a crime in ten years.
 
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Is the Constitution just a piece of paper?

How long until ICE starts dragging citizens out of their homes?
lol for what? Being a legal citizen? :doh:
 
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lol for what? Being a legal citizen? :doh:
For having the wrong color skin, not believing in the right God or believing the right way.

America has done this before.
 
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For some liberals it must really be scary to see a president do what he promised! Like removing murders, rapists. Human traffickers, child abusers, thieves, gang members and terrorist.
 
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For some liberals it must really be scary to see a president do what he promised! Like removing murders, rapists. Human traffickers, child abusers, thieves, gang members and terrorist.
If it were just those people, I wouldn't be worrying. But we are talking about American citizens getting pulled into this, and they are going after people who have been living and working here for years without breaking the law.

If your skin is the wrong color, ICE has shown that even if you have ID they will ignore it.
 
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For having the wrong color skin, not believing in the right God or believing the right way.

America has done this before.
If my skin were darker or I looked more like a possible immigrant, I sure would be carrying a copy of my birth certificate as well as driver I.D. and passport if I had one.
 
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Here in Arizona, we've seen this play before (2011).....Sheriff Joe Arapaio's deputies would arrest Latino's outside grocery stores....based on their appearance (at the time, local law enforcement were empowered to carry out immigration activities). With Trump pressuring ICE to hit deportation quotas, there will be US citizens and residents swept up in the dragnet.
 
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