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    Israel and the church: a distinction?

    there are four different covenant with abraham
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    Doctrine of Election

    roman 3:23 all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God 1 cor 10:32 jews, gentiles ,and the church of God the elect are chosen by God ......2 tim 1:9 how does God chose...1 cor 1:26-29 1peter 2:9-10
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    How can a person stay saved?

    He counts since all are raised up .... that they all have eternal life....saved? John 17:3 and this is life eternal[God's good kind of life], that they might experiencial know thee the only true God, and JC, whom thou has sent. Hebrews 6:2 ...and eternal judgement....[bad kind of life...
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    Israel and the church: a distinction?

    Gal 3:15b though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth or added there to 16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds as of many but as of one, and to they seed which is Christ gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's then are ye...
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    I Thess.4 and I Cor. 15 are not Rapture Verses

    gen 6:5b man every imagination of the thoughts of his heart waS ONLY EVIL CONTINUALLY .......[/b] [b]UNRIGHTEOUS MAN GOING TO SEEK A RIGHTEOUS GOD ....? ALL YOUR OTHER VERSES ...are NT verses the Jews did not know them....
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    How can a person stay saved?

    so what is it one or the other?
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    How can a person stay saved?

    to go with this ..... Matt 9:13b For I am not come to call the [self] righteous but sinners
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    I Thess.4 and I Cor. 15 are not Rapture Verses

    notice in 1 thes this is God trumpet..... in rev these are angels trumpets
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    Gifts of the Spirit

    just ignore 1 cor 13:8...these are all super natural gifts from God not human abilities
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    The Thief On The Cross

    usually a person needs context with sleep .... in 1 thes 5:6-7 these are believer who are spiritually sleeping but alive physcially therefore let us not sleep as do others ...choice in other passages it means dead physcally
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    I Thess.4 and I Cor. 15 are not Rapture Verses

    when a gentile was saved in the OT they could never have the same promises as Jews they were mice picking up the scraps which is better than the other options yet now according to Gal 3:28 we are equal eph 2 would help you with these differences In revelations 3:9 Behold Iwill make...
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    I Thess.4 and I Cor. 15 are not Rapture Verses

    find a OT verse that talks about gentiles being equal with Jews. Can't eph 2:10-11 Gal 3:28 this is NT only info
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    The Thief On The Cross

    2 cor 5:1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle[tent] were dissolved[died] we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens 2 cor 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body and to present facing the Lord. no...
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    Day of the LORD

    we have differnet theolgy views...yet I see how you get your idea and putting the thief in the night together. Yet the thief in the Night goes for this whole period which is 1007 years long does anyone know when a thief comes? no it is instantanous...it just happens a feeling of shock
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    The Thief On The Cross

    there are three bodies on can recieve... a tent...body on earth... 2 peter 1:14 a house .. 2 cor 5:1....man on the cross has this body no one get a glorified body till the rapture.... then look at 2 cor 5:8 a mansion john 14:1-3
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    I Thess.4 and I Cor. 15 are not Rapture Verses

    mystery where to OT believers now that we are in the NT they are not mystery but only to those who do not believe
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    The Thief On The Cross

    Yeah and man was right about the earth being flat..... put your faith in man's wisdom...ha ha... 1 cor 1:19-21 even thou I am foolish of thing of this world.....weak, common,things despised I can glorifiy in the Lord.........1 cor 26-31
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    I Thess.4 and I Cor. 15 are not Rapture Verses

    ever here of the mysteries? 1 cor 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world[ages] unto our glory: 8 which none of the princes of the world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of Glory Mystery...
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    I Thess.4 and I Cor. 15 are not Rapture Verses

    about the church they new nothing why eph 2:10-11 but they did have prophesy of there King suffering thus they did not understand
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    I Thess.4 and I Cor. 15 are not Rapture Verses

    Matt 24:29-31 are talking about tribulational saints who have different promises than us. church was not known during the Law period because Gentiles where scum of the earth with no promise, no hope, no faith eph 2:10-11 144,000 are the only ones who during the wrath of God excape during the...