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Did they speak euaggelion? If not, you have no case. Sorry The rest of your stuff is too numerous Oudeis means NO ONE . . . that no one applies to the potential of ANYONE walking into a meeting . .. so no one. Dismantled from the text itself. No amount of you positing is going to change...

OH PLEASE . . . wow, grasping <edit>I tried to get you to think about your own contentions . . . tried to get you to actually look at some of the things that you are claiming (like kudalini and tongue and Khaballah and the Talmud) . . . and you have kept on. <edit> So, you now get the...

^_^^_^^_^ U astound me! Ur failure to get even a small point is becoming pathetic! LOL, ur playing God again. Actually dear friend, I am reformed. If Calvinism had seven points I be 5 . . . I hold to all the solas . . . and my soteriology is heavily Calvinistic.of my top five fav...

Uh, how about that the Talmud and Khaballah are two different things, separated by more than a 1000 years! lol Ur colors r glaring dude . . . ur loosing lots of ground and discrediting yourself. Then perhaps you should retire and return when you got a little more study.:) Sure dude. U...

Yet no substance again . . . I am seeing a pattern hera . . . and u r loosing face. ^_^^_^^_^ WISPY . . . Guess ur not as intelligent as we were all hoping . . . sad Ever heard of hermeneutics? One of the prime principles is AUTHORIAL INTENT and AUTHORIAL USAGE. And, u contend...

1. It is the story of the reformation. My point stands "babe." 2. NOW you are playing God. You have NO IDEA what is in my heart nor my intention. You are arrogant and you reak of self righteousness to say such things w/o knowing a person nor their heart. You are not sovereign . . ...

1. Ur parallels of Khaballah and the Talmud are ignorant. Perhaps u should do some study before you continue to discredit yourself. 2. Philosophical necessities refers to concepts within the text that are requisite for statements made. It has nothing to do with formal philosophy. So, the...

^_^ Prosuchemenoi and pnuema . . . sorry bro. The only other reference we have in the Scriptures to the same is TONGUES. oops Sounds like gibberish and gibberish are two different things. Thanks for playing tho 1. Different authors. 2. Paul speaks nothing of the Gospel and neither does...

Why would foreign languages cause one to mock? with all the people groups in the city at the time, what would be so worthy of mockery? No . . . it was the perception of gibberish by those who didnt understand. Nope. Commentaries are mere reflections on a text. That is all. Theirs is no better...

K, tell me about the pagan practices . . . no, let me save you the trouble. It is the pythian and delphic oracles and the mantenoi . . . and what they spoke WAS TRANSLATED. IT SOUNDED like gibberish because it wasnt an earthly language. It was DEMONIC. The SAME place of religious fervor is...

Sure, coming from a guy who doesnt move in them . . . or better yet chapter and verse that your wrong :) 1 Cor 12:11 11 But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually just as He wills. NASU Sorry, I will believe Paul. People who move in the gifts...

oila!

Yep, the impartation of tongues to believers is a sign of condemnation to the unbeliever . . . hence "still they will not listen" Kinda throws your "tongues as foreign language for the presentaiton of the Gospel" out the window.

The verse is pointing to praying in the SPirit (tongues) as building us up . . . and a leading to do so. :)

That would probably be because that is not what the text says about how the gifts work. :thumbsup: Thats like saying an apple isnt an apple but your really looking for an orange. Doesnt work. Your criteria is wrong and thus will never be met.

No, they were speaking ecstatic unintelligble speech . . . that SOUNDED like gibberish to those who wouldnt respond in faith, but rather mocked "hey they are drunk" Those who would come to faith, new the initial sound that they heard, and were thusly FLOORED when the came near and each heard...

How would you know for a fact if your a stranger? That is what the text speaks of. Oudeis means NO ONE . . . NO ONE. Sorry.

Actually the ten vol. set is $75 ea . . . so that would be $750 . . . thanks for playing tho ur gonna have to wait on that til I have a little more time . . . or you can look it up yourself on google books, if you can read some greek, vol 1 pg 719 is the beginning of the article and the usage...

Sure. Not the Greek tho of 1 Cor 14 . . . so your parallel doesnt work. Paul says NO ONE and expects that ANYONE could walk through the door at any time and EXPECTS that tongues wouldnt be understood by the potential of ANYONE walking through the door. That is the point of the warning about...

Sorry, it is hyperbole . . . two ends of the spectrum, where NORMAL HUMAN LANGUAGE IS ONE END and angelic language is another. It is part of the Jewish culture that saw angels as speaking their own dialects per kind of angel. THAT IS HISTORICAL in their religious context. It is non earthly...