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    Tiptoe through the T.U.L.I.P. or how Adam suffered from Total Depravity

    BTW, most Traducians (if not all) believe that the stain of sin is transmitted via the male line, and this is why Christ was not likewise stained because He was conceived by the Holy Spirit.
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    Tiptoe through the T.U.L.I.P. or how Adam suffered from Total Depravity

    Federalism says that Adam was our representative, that he acted on our behalf. Realism says that it was I, contained within the loins of Adam, who committed the sin. Realism can only exist if one is a traducian, and believes that our immaterial nature comes to us in exactly the same way as...
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    Tiptoe through the T.U.L.I.P. or how Adam suffered from Total Depravity

    Where did I make such a claim? You insist that I must make such a claim based upon your limited knowledge. I recommend a study of traducianism and the realist view of Original Sin.
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    Tiptoe through the T.U.L.I.P. or how Adam suffered from Total Depravity

    I "could've" meant that, but I didn't. :) What I said is that I was "in" Adam at the time of his disobedience, and thus participated in the fall. I am responsible since it was I who sinned when Adam sinned. A search of the "traducian" view of the origin of man, or "traducianism", as...
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    Tiptoe through the T.U.L.I.P. or how Adam suffered from Total Depravity

    Some Calvinists (traducians) believe that we were actually in Adam at the time of his Fall, and thus participated in his act. I won't argue with Federalists, since they make a good case, but, to me at least, the traducian/realist school makes more sense. I am guilty because I participated...
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    Our inability to save ourselves, or John was a Calvinist!

    You understood me correctly, and this is my bigest argument against those who are looking for a "second blessing". When we are regenerated by the Holy Spirit, He takes up residence within us, and is the guarantee of our final glorification, dwelling within us.
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    Our inability to save ourselves, or John was a Calvinist!

    Romans 8:9 (ESV) You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.
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    Our inability to save ourselves, or John was a Calvinist!

    Looks like you are at variance with your church: http://www.garbc.org/garbc_home/artfaith.shtml#articles.holy Which reads: III. The Holy Spirit We believe that the Holy Spirit is a divine person, equal with God the Father and God the Son and of the same nature; that He was active in...
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    Our inability to save ourselves, or John was a Calvinist!

    Ever heard of a man called Saul of Tarsus? God directly intervened in his life by knocking him to the ground and rendering him blind. Yes, God sent him to humans for instruction, but Saul was converted by the direct, miraculous, intervention of God apart from human witness. As to your...
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    Our inability to save ourselves, or John was a Calvinist!

    Did I say that? Whether one believes that man is three fold (body, soul, spirit), or two dimensional (body, soul/spirit), there is nothing about any part of man that is worthy. The miracle of salvation is that God saves those who are totally lost. Quick question: Do you believe that the...
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    Tiptoe through the T.U.L.I.P. or how Adam suffered from Total Depravity

    This has to be the worst mis-characterization of the doctrine of Irresistable Grace that I have ever seen. Of course, you wouldn't have an axe to grind seeing as the thread was speaking of Total Depravity, would you? Yet, I realize that you don't understand Irresistable Grace solely due to...
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    Pre-Destination?

    http://www.crosswalk.com/news/weblogs/mohler/?cal=go&adate=11%2F20%2F2003
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    Pre-Destination?

    Re: Open Theism, from this week's edition of my state Baptist newspaper: LOUISVILLE, Ky. (BP) The "God" of open theism is not the God found in Scripture, a new book by a Southern Baptist Theological Seminary professor argues. In the book "Their God is Too Small: Open Theism and the...
  14. J

    Our inability to save ourselves, or John was a Calvinist!

    No, it is not "our" "spirit" that is worthy, but rather the Holy Spirit of God who dwells within believers. We are unworthy, He alone is worthy.
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    Pre-Destination?

    Well, let's get the Open Theism "thing" out of the way first: If you can't see where Open Theism is a denial of the historic faith, I am not going to be able to show you in a forum of this type your denial of both the revelation of God's Word and the history of the faith. Let's move on to I...
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    Our inability to save ourselves, or John was a Calvinist!

    What saith the Word? Romans 7:18 (ESV) For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out. Paul was redeemed, and his credentials as a minister of Christ are unquestionably valid, yet he...
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    Open Theism

    Some of the elect need more miraculous prompting than others. Saul of Tarsus needed to hear the voice of Christ out of Heaven, and be rendered blind. I simply needed the loving presentation of the Gospel by a fellow teenager. Different sinners, different miracles. Isn't is great that He...
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    Pre-Destination?

    If Mr. Potato Head is a proponent of Open Theism, then he is a heretic, and has denied the faith. I haven't read enough of the other thread yet to determine whether he holds to this pernicious doctrine, or whether he is just "toying" with it.
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    Pre-Destination?

    I would agree with you that "He desires all of us be saved" with the one stipulation that the "us" refers only to the elect, and not all men without exception. (It doesn't take more than a cursory reading of II Peter 3 to see this. God is going to destroy His enemies, and is going to save all...
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    Our inability to save ourselves, or John was a Calvinist!

    I see Him at work in His church, don't you? He doesn't need us to do His work for Him, but rather He chooses to do His work through us. We are unworthy servants, unfit vessels to house the Spirit of God, yet it is His good pleasure that He redeems "cracked pots" and makes them vessels for His...