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  1. moonbeam

    Calvinism's response to open theism

    I agree - if your statement is applied to the created order (creation) - its evinced by the increasing number of grey hairs accumulating on your head, and the tears we have shed at innumerable funerals. The premise that "Time does not exist outside a thinking mind" is a methodology whereby Open...
  2. moonbeam

    Calvinism's response to open theism

    The novel destructive argument against Open Theism is briefly summarized below in its essential elements. 1 - Accepting their premise that - Time does not exist outside of a thinking mind. 2 - Demonstrate that God possesses the preeminent thinking mind. 3 - Demonstrate that the creation is...
  3. moonbeam

    Calvinism's response to open theism

    Post - 4 Clete said This would seem to suggest that we are merely concepts within God's mind. I just don't get it. moonbeam said Does not thought preceed action, creative action? What else could we have been prior to being created but an idea, a concept, in the Mind of God? What else could the...
  4. moonbeam

    Calvinism's response to open theism

    Post - 3 moonbeam said The Father (God) possesses a logical mind, and so a conceptual mind. Time does not exist outside of a thinking mind. "For in him we live, and move, and have our being;" - so time does exist for us ontologically. Clete said This would seem to suggest that we are merely...
  5. moonbeam

    Calvinism's response to open theism

    Post - 2 moonbeam said The Father (God) possesses a logical mind, and so a conceptual mind. JudgeRghtly said Time does not exist outside of a thinking mind. moonbeam said "For in him we live, and move, and have our being;" - so time does exist for us ontologically. Ok let's break it down a...
  6. moonbeam

    Calvinism's response to open theism

    Post - 1 Clete said The ontological existence of time is literally a logical impossibility. moonbeam said I was thinking about what you said (typed)... the first thought was quite simple really it was just...... ( interesting ) ...... singular ....... kind of like one of those old steam...
  7. moonbeam

    Calvinism's response to open theism

    Bouncing of that intriguing thought... I will post 4 posts in sequential order (3 of mine + 1 of Clete) so as to have a reasonably concise body of material to work with in regards developing the destructive argument (firstly) - before probing it for weakness (secondly) to determine its...
  8. moonbeam

    Nighttime conversations with children and God

    What a great post... and I haven't even opened up the link yet - but I will definitely get to that... I felt prompted to respond immediately. As I was reading, I had an evocative recollection of a beautiful scene in this particular film... it's entitled "Wit." I'm making the assumption that...
  9. moonbeam

    Calvinism's response to open theism

    Well as you are probably aware as you post there (your home base) - the Administrator + Super Moderator on that forum called JudgeRightly - more like Judge UN-Rightly - has banned me whilst in the middle of a live interaction with himself and Clete. But what was most egregious was he did so...
  10. moonbeam

    Calvinism's response to open theism

    Ok I remember that was on your post number 36. I've reproduced those quotes above just to acknowledge that earlier response. As you are aware (on the other forum) I have a couple of things going on and will have to concentrate on those developments and so thought I would close out our...
  11. moonbeam

    Calvinism's response to open theism

    Do you have a logical basis for that assessment?
  12. moonbeam

    Did the Lord approve a spirit to lie to Ahab?

    This is an interesting scripture, and reflective of the account of Satans conversation with the LORD in Job. The utilization of deliberate deception (lying) in your example, condoned and facilitated, by He who is Truth. Fascinating dynamic - 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
  13. moonbeam

    Calvinism's response to open theism

    . The speckled hen by Totton Linnet This story is true it happened to me a squaubbling of sparrows commotion in the tree I opened my window and there I saw a pretty blue budgerigar in the middle of it all Those dowdy sparrows were out to kill a fellow with coat so bright did not at all fit...
  14. moonbeam

    Calvinism's response to open theism

    In regard your earlier response - "I disagree" Do you have a logical basis for that assessment?
  15. moonbeam

    Calvinism's response to open theism

    You disagree. Very well - I will reflect on your response and return to make enquires concerning the reason for your disagreement at a later time. I did mention that I would revisit your broader comments and address the substantive issues raised in them, which I will do with this post. I may...
  16. moonbeam

    The Spirit of God came UPON him

    Greetings tonychanyt: "Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow." - 1Peter 1:11 KJV "But yea are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the...
  17. moonbeam

    Calvinism Predestination Doctrine

    Great post - SeamusDalion: Definitely worth a read - and another read. .
  18. moonbeam

    Calvinism's response to open theism

    As mentioned previously, I do want to drill down, specifically, into the full scope of Acts 17:28 ... as the actual nature of the reality we inhabit (Creation in its totality) is fundamental to weighty matters such as sequence, time, decree, and eternity. I hope the narrow focus of my responses...
  19. moonbeam

    Calvinism's response to open theism

    You asked previously in your post number 34 - How Acts 17:28 is germane to our discussion (regards sequence/time) I contend that that particular scripture lays the foundation for insights into the true nature of our reality (the Creation we inhabit). Just thought I would mention that... because...
  20. moonbeam

    Calvinism's response to open theism

    I agree wholeheartedly ... with your statement ... which I would describe as being a broad overview ... but lacking in the required precision. Especially for and in-depth enquiry into the weighty matters you have raised as an Open Theist concerning sequence/time as it pertains to God and man -...