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    Mary: Mother of God?

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    Mary: Mother of God?

    See also: Revelation 4.4: Surrounding the throne were twenty four other thrones, and seated on them were twenty four elders. They were dressed in white and had crowns of gold on their heads. Revelation 5.8: ...and the twenty four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each one had a harp and they...
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    Our Lady of Fatima

    Non-Catholics often disparage apparitions that confirm or underscore Catholicism for precisely that reason. If they accept the validity and holiness of the apparition, they are accepting the validation of a rival faith. In actuality Jesus told us how we should judge such apparitions, since He...
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    Vatican supports Mary worship!

    It's amazing that people like No Doubt list as their standard of "Christian belief" teachings that none of the first Christians, or those of the next 1500 years, would have dreamed of - let alone accepted! Apparently, on this basis, "true" Christianity was only revealed to certain Germans from...
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    Vatican supports Mary worship!

    It's sad when some people just seem to want to come here to slander other Christians. :o
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    Justified by Works.

    Justification by Faith - as it is pronounced by certain evangelicals - that is, come forward and say a prayer accepting Jesus, even if you believe in that prayer at that moment - is contrary to the gospel as taught in the New Testament. Faith has to be more than intellectual or emotional...
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    Vatican supports Mary worship!

    The Usual nonsense. :doh: Firstly you are looking at a VICTORIAN document. So saying "Vatican supports..." in the title is more than a little dishonest. Now it may well be news to some people but the meaning of English words CHANGES WITH TIME. There are hundreds of examples - Gay, 50 years ago...
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    now appearing on a food griddle

    Unfortunately its not even a good picture of the stain!! But if it's only attracted 100 people, it can't be that wondrous. These sort of things turn up all the time. They bear no comparison to the message-bearing and faith-building apparitions formally approved by the Church.
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    Mary: Mother of God?

    MAmaZ: Flesh is NOT a personhood. Mary is the mother of a whole person, not just "flesh". No one is a mother to just flesh. It is the Nestorian heresy to invent two Jesuses, one who died on the cross and one who did not.
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    It' time to stop arguing and unify.

    Abortion and contraception are the chief culprits here. Atheistic society is killing itself, while simultaneously lashing out at Christianity and appeasing Islam. Even now the US is pushing for 80 million Turks to be admitted to the European Union and supporting newly created Islamic states...
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    Mary: Mother of God?

    This sounds a lot like Gnosticism, and could seem to be a denial of the Incarnation. Jesus didn't descend in the FORM (ie pretence) of human flesh. That would be the paganising heresy of Apollinarianism. Jesus BECAME MAN. He took not just flesh, but full humanity including a human nature, from...
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    Mary: Mother of God?

    There are a whole waggon load of major heresies that are opened up by denying that Mary is Mother of God... Nestorianism posits two personhoods to Jesus, one the son of God, one the son of Mary. Apollinarianism argues Jesus was not fully human, and took nothing from Mary other than a shell of...
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    Mary: Mother of God?

    You seem to misunderstand the concept of the Trinity. Jesus is FULLY God - cosubstantial with the Father and the Spirit. You cannot separate them into three Gods - as you seem to be wanting to. The reason that mainstream Christianity insists on the Doctrine that Mary is Mother of God, is...
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    New Survey: Catholics and Protestants who Leave their Denomination or Switch

    As someone who got caught up in evangelicalism. I found that it was very attractive initially, with its sense of youth and community, as well as the feeling that there was love and enthusiasm. However, doctrinally, evangelical beliefs just do not hold up or match Jesus's teachings. The history...
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    What would it take for catholics to convert to Orthodox Church?

    Catholic and Orthodox will re-unite someday, probably sooner than many people think. Many Eastern Catholics have orthodox practice but Catholic unity. Of course there are people who like to nurse old or imagined grudges for centuries, but their obsessions are not as central as they think.
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    Messages from Mary

    Apparitions occurred in biblical times. The most famous being the appearance of Moses and Elijah at the Transfiguration. In Tradition and scripture both Moses and Elijah were previously Assumed bodily into heaven - another similarity with Mary. Marian apparitions approved by the Church have...
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    The reason I am no longer a Catholic

    Indeed. I'd read some histoy in more detail. The "reformation" was imposed from the top by State Power. Just like most "revolutions". The Kings and princes of Germany England, Scandinavia, and nobles elsewhere, stole Church property, raided peaceful monasteries and convents, stole their land...
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    The acension of Mary

    When certain writings are declared heretical, that does not mean that everything referred to in that writing (like the assumption) is heretical. Jesus's death on the cross is referred to in many heretical writings, that does not mean, however, that belief in His death on the cross is heretical...
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    USCCB on The Golden Compass

    I too have read the first book. Apparently it is the least offensive! I hate to think of what's in the others... The most subversive and intended effect of the book on children, is that it intentionally makes the "Church", (or magesterium,) into a frightening evil institution. A secretive...
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    THIS is truth?

    Nonsense. Typical fallacy of imagining a false contradiction where none exists. :sigh: Typical example... The road is how I went to work this morning. The car is how I went to work this morning. Is there a contradiction? Is the car replacing the road? No.