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i just realized oneness believers can't post on any "christian" threads, and don't really see a point in sticking around, so I've requested my account be closed. God bless all, have fun discussing the big issues, much love in Jesus.

am posting moon stuff on new thread now.

No I don't believe we ever did. We can't get through the van allen belts. even now they're still trying to figure it out. Also I don't know if anyone else has reseached Operation Paperclip. Why would America make a NAZI the head of the space program, knowing the crimes he committed?

When has the cost of something ever stopped them? I'm sorry but i don't buy your reasoning at all. Money has never stopped America from doing anything. Look at their current debt situation. What is the NASA daily budget? What is their current debt ceiling. The moon landing should have been the...

The point is. We went to the moon, and then we forgot everything it took to get us there. Thats the point I was making. For 50 years we haven't given the moon a thought, you're telling me that six visits to the moon is all we did and in those six visits we got ALL the information we ever needed...

Why don't we presently have the means. We're supposed to have already done it. It was one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind remember? And then it appears we threw everything out and forgot we went. Seriously, If we went to the moon 50 years ago, why aren't we living on it? I'm...

I'm only saying what NASA itself is saying. They're the ones saying we haven't been out of lower earth orbit.

But we haven't been outside lower earth orbit. So how do we know the earths atmosphere extends out past the moon? The moon is supposed to be 225,000 miles away, (at its closest) and according to NASA, lower earth orbit is 1200 miles. And NASA is on record numerous times telling us they are...

Welcome :D

But earth existing next to a vacuum without a physical boundary violates the second law of thermo dynamics

Yes of course I'm aware the lenses play a part in it, thats why i posted the videos, four videos, two using a fish eye lense, two using a non fish eye lense. The point is, there is a vast difference between them, two very clearly show a curved earth, and two - at roughly the same altitude show...

Compare these few videos. Weather balloon at 120000ft showing a flat earth Weather balloon at 121000ft showing a flat earth Weather balloon at 109,000ft showing a round earth Weather balloon at 105000ft showing a round earth

We have two reflections. One from the "inside of the spacecraft" that the astronaut is in, and another from the underside of the hubble. Thats two planes, or two faces / projections. Its not enough to say "the glass is thick" Even with triple glazing, the glass can't reflect something if there...

Why does the hubble itself have a reflection?

sorry just to add, i'm not suggesting the photo was taken BY the hubble, its a photo OF the hubble, but the comment still stands, 1/ its a photo of a model and 2/ the hubble doesn't take actual photos.

God bless Joya and welcome :D

For me it started with accepting first of all that the bible is the inerrant word of God. When i returned to the Lord, I had a real tangible experience. During that experience it was made clear to me that the bible is the absolute inerrant word of God and that he means what he says. I work for...

They are so much fun, and have a very 90's / 2000's vibe LOL (showing my age)

I'm a sucker for the Age of Empires series, and other games like settlers, civilization etc.

Thanks everyone, glad to be back x