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I think it is a side pursuit of some that are Open Theists. Because they believe that time is absolute, in the sense that God works sequentially, and therefore exhibits aspects of time, even prior to the world being created. You don't know that. No, I'm using the characteristics God exhibits...

If you compare a founding pastor to, say, Paul in the bible, he rarely ever stayed more than 3 years anywhere, if I remember correctly. His goal seemed to be to deliver doctrine to the new church, appoint elders, and move on. Sometime he stayed only several months. There may be some differences...

Yes, the FBI is alarmed that they may not be able to retain their power when the election goes the wrong way for them.

Check out North Korea. They can tell you.

I'm not sure why this bears on the conversation. Even if I made a terrible decision, it would not change whether the child and the cells are live human beings. What we're talking about is whether the cells are actually human, and if they are, which @Bradskii acknowledges, it is murder to kill...

For invoking God? Wouldn't that also violate "separation of church and state"?

Mobs chase righteous people down the street fairly regularly. If I'm supposed to determine my morals based on whether a mob might chase me down the street, I'll be the most immoral man ever.

Yes, let's talk about definitions. A human zygote is human, just like an elephant zygote is elephant. Abortion is the word used for early termination of a pregnancy. Not all abortion is murder, because the word is also used for miscarriages (spontaneous abortions), but intentionally terminating...

You're welcome. And I appreciate your non-answer as well. Telling, isn't it?

The question as posed in this thread is addressing a moral issue regarding whether preborn life is human. The false dichotomy presupposes that one of the two human lives is less valuable than the other, and asks me to tell the questioner which one it is, without the option to say, "They are...

Because it's a false dichotomy. I'll try it on you. Your house is burning down, and you only have time to save one of your two children, twins that are 1 year old. Which one do you save?

The weirder part is they described the patient was described as "eloped" from his room. That probably means he was supposed to be restrained or locked in.

Good. That's the same kind of thing we should think about freezing very small people. We have a reason to do so, and we shouldn't let them shatter (or thaw, apparently) without the proper safeguards. What would have been the point of freezing an embryo 100 years ago? now we do it, because it...

So was freezing an embryo not too long ago. Are you saying we only have to deal with moral issues after the technology is already in place?

Both.

I don't understand your question. Which children are you asking about?

are you suggesting a human in suspended animation, if we knew how to do it, would be only a clump of cells, and legally to be discarded?

I'm not convinced that "time does not exist outside of a thinking mind" is that integral to Open Theism. But even if it were, your premises that all creation is internal to God and yet distinct from God does nothing to remove the thinking mind of God from the equation. God exists and thinks...

It doesn't stop being history just because you don't believe it happened. That's hubris.

No, your argument is a moving platform. There isn't agreement on when the current Mt-Eve lived, and yet you are using the time when she lived to try to argue with me about it. An educated guess with lots of assumptions about how many mutations have occurred, and how many can occur per...